Secret of Kung Fu

[faxiapreta]

two things-yeah, most of the "blocks' were actually strikes. Most of the guys who teach Karate in the states, learned only basics while stationed overseas. Shodan is a student rank, not a Master. When they returned stateside, they opened up schools, and taught what they knew-beginner's understanding.
If you examine the "blocks" and look at the preparatory movements, you will see which is actually the defense, and which is the follow up.

two-there are more than one type of gi collar choke.
Most people who have competed understand this
step...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOI8K7rPkLE

Notice how he explains that you have to pull in to finish the choke.

Also, notice how he explains the way you were talking about is the opposite of what you should do.

[TenTigers]

if ignorance is bliss, you must be fukin ecstatic...

this needs to be said in a Joe Pesci, or Mickey Rourke voice to be truly appreciated..

[SPJ]

you have to compete in the ring or on the street to understand fight.

yes

we have to live to understand life

we have to fight to understand fight

we have to eat or taste the food before we may appreciate/understand the food

but we have to digest and or sometimes regurgitate it, too

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[faxiapreta]

in all honesty, I have taught several high ranked Senseis and a few Sifus applications to their own forms, that they were not aware of.
This is not uncommon as you may think. Too many people simply learn what their teachers taught, never think for themselves, never ask questions, never open a book, or do any research on their own styles, other systems, or cross-train.
Really, it's not a big stretch...

Teaching things from a form is a waste of time in the first place.

Can you imagine going into a wrestling clinic and they start teaching you wrestling from one of your forms.

Yep, if ignorance is bliss, you must have found nirvanna.

[Snipsky]

you have to compete in the ring or on the street to understand fight.

yes

we have to live to understand life

we have to fight to understand fight

we have to eat or taste the food before we may appreciate/understand the food

but we have to digest and or sometimes regurgitate it, too

of course but Most people who have competed understand this.

[Snipsky]

Teaching things from a form is a waste of time in the first place.

Not true. of course but Most people who have competed understand this.

Can you imagine going into a wrestling clinic and they start teaching you wrestling from one of your forms.

again....Kung Fu people would never go to a wrestling coach to understand kung fu forms..........Most people who have competed understand this.

[TenTigers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOI8K7rPkLE

Notice how he explains that you have to pull in to finish the choke.

Also, notice how he explains the way you were talking about is the opposite of what you should do.

no, he basically said the same thing, I did not say to bring the elbows out.
He is grabbing the lapels and using his forearms to choke-which is the first part of the move.
Turning the hands is twisting the lapels across the throat-which is using the gi itself to choke with, and not the forearms. With a looser garment, this may be a necessary step. BJJ gis are tighter in the arms and body to make it harder to grab-just as shuai jiao tops have short, tighter sleeves and jackets.

[TenTigers]

Teaching things from a form is a waste of time in the first place.

Can you imagine going into a wrestling clinic and they start teaching you wrestling from one of your forms.

Yep, if ignorance is bliss, you must have found nirvanna.

wrestling coaches have textbooks and notes, Martai Artists have forms, which are simply textbooks and notes.
So I guess if I had a notebook, then it would be fine...namaste, douchebag.

[TenTigers]

sorry about the db comment.
but it was freakin funny...couldn't resist.

[faxiapreta]

wrestling coaches have textbooks and notes, Martai Artists have forms, which are simply textbooks and notes.
So I guess if I had a notebook, then it would be fine...namaste, douchebag.

And the wrestling coach is sure not going to say, "Let me see your form," and then proceed to extrapolate things from your form into wrestling... which is exactly the thing you were attempting to do with the karate guys.

[瓜娃子]

the karate was just an example.

Karate sucks anyway. Peasant kung fu told as a lie to the Japanese after they finished raping Okinawa..they said, "Teach us your shiri te.

Okay..here is the qi gong...now give yourself a hernia and die young.


Karate sucks


I cum in the mouth of every karate master.

[faxiapreta]

no, he basically said the same thing, I did not say to bring the elbows out.
He is grabbing the lapels and using his forearms to choke-which is the first part of the move.
Turning the hands is twisting the lapels across the throat-which is using the gi itself to choke with, and not the forearms. With a looser garment, this may be a necessary step. BJJ gis are tighter in the arms and body to make it harder to grab-just as shuai jiao tops have short, tighter sleeves and jackets.

Actually, what chokes is both the label and the wrists/forarms.

As far as pulling in, that is required of the choke and is even more important with a looser garment, which is the opposite of what you were claiming.

Anyone who has actually performed this choke on an opponent who is halfway skilled at defending understands this.

[David Jamieson]

can you imagine what he's like out in public?

Someone may say "Hey man, have a great day" and instead of saying "thanks man, you too" his reply would be "Most people who have competed understand this" or if he went to church and the preacher says "Peace be with you" again his reply would be "Most people who have competed understand this" or even "hey faxiapreta congratulations on becoming a father he'd shout at them " "Most people who have competed understand this"

he doesn't even realize we can predict what he's gonna say next. LOL

Most people who have dealt with incessant trolls understand this. lol

i think maxi pad is actually hw108.
knifefighter actually knew stuff about mma. lol this guy or girl is just a wad.

[Lucas]

I cum in the mouth of every karate master.

that sounds like quite the task...where do you find the time?

[Scott R. Brown]

Can you imagine going into a wrestling clinic and they start teaching you wrestling from one of your forms.

Any one, two, three, etc., step movement is technically a form!

Wrestlers practice forms, boxers use forms, gymnasts use forms, fencers use forms, etc, so on and so forth.