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    Nice Chinna Vid

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK8qO...yer_detailpage

    I think this (originally posted by YiQuanOne ) is a nice chinna video. Even though it's not against a resisting (well, he resists a tiny bit) opponent, I think it shows a lot about how chinna can be applied in combat. --I know there are some folks out there with questions about that , hope this helps clarify at least a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinDan View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK8qO...yer_detailpage

    I think this (originally posted by YiQuanOne ) is a nice chinna video. Even though it's not against a resisting (well, he resists a tiny bit) opponent, I think it shows a lot about how chinna can be applied in combat. --I know there are some folks out there with questions about that , hope this helps clarify at least a little.
    More b.s.

    But feel free to go into any grappling tourney and see how it doesn't work like that.

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    Fax, dude! You are so negative. Chin na is outside my realm of knowledge, but it sure looks like a grappler could use stuff like that outside of competition to really put some extra hurt on a guy. Trouble is it's not safe to use in competition. Still, everyone has an extra bag of dirty tricks. What's wrong with adding some more nasty stuff to that bag?
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    not a chin na video (it says 'push hands' in Chinese) and most of it has nothing to do with any sort of joint lock?
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    2 points

    1. use straightness to over come horizontal methods and vice versa

    zhi po heng, or heng po zhi.

    if the opponent pushes your shoulder (straight, zhi), you bend his wrist (horizontal, heng)

    2. use circles to harmonize/neutralize between straightness and horizontal methods.

    circling downward, circling upward

    so we cover everything

    forward/backward (straight)

    to the left and to the right (horizontal)

    upward and downward (circling)

    we remain contact or stick and link

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    Good drill and the right way to go about training chin na with push hands. Plus a healthy blend of strikes.

    to give you TCMA haters some perspective - this is a chin na / push hands equivalent of grip fighting training... and IMO this is a better way to train for real chin na - gripping, pulling, with motion added for fluidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    not a chin na video (it says 'push hands' in Chinese) and most of it has nothing to do with any sort of joint lock?
    I was about to say the same thing.

    But also, as with a lot of the stuff coming out of YiquanOne the demonstrator here has major issues with elbow positioning. The way he splays his elbows out like that he's just begging for a good grappler to take complete control of one of his arms, probably transition to back control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonM View Post

    But also, as with a lot of the stuff coming out of YiquanOne the demonstrator here has major issues with elbow positioning. The way he splays his elbows out like that he's just begging for a good grappler to take complete control of one of his arms, probably transition to back control.
    he is basically pummeling for bicept control ("steering wheel") which is pretty darn unique for most TCMA clips, but he doesn't "keep the box" and anyone with a bit of wrestling could easily control him due to his lack of elbow control

    a clip or two to be more clear

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjhdayWgXWo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT5Ohe93Ep4
    Last edited by lkfmdc; 07-11-2011 at 09:28 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumblegeezer View Post
    Fax, dude! You are so negative. Chin na is outside my realm of knowledge, but it sure looks like a grappler could use stuff like that outside of competition to really put some extra hurt on a guy. Trouble is it's not safe to use in competition. Still, everyone has an extra bag of dirty tricks. What's wrong with adding some more nasty stuff to that bag?
    Um, hello!!?? You can use all that (except for strikes) in any submission grappling tourney.

    Like I said go to a submission grappling tourney and see what happens. A lot of the stuff shown there will get you put on your @ss.

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