Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
That version of arm bar (I am tempted to say "waki gatame" but not sure?) was legal in Judo for years and while low percentage, did work ... I would also say you'd probably find more examples IN GI because the Gi makes it easier to pull off
Waki gatame is correct
It was one of the arm locks that I always had some concern with because it always seemed that, fro it to work, it hard to dislocate.
It had to be done in such a way that it would dislocate - explosively for lack of a better word.
I have used arm and wrist locks while bouncing, as have many other bouncers of course and LEO's and, typiclaly, they work best when you have numerical superiority and by best I mean without having to dislocate anything.
That said, it seems to me for standing locks to work 1-on-1 they have to be "breaks" rather than locks.
I have used the waki and the kote and the ikky and sankyo locks and for them to be effective 1-on-1 they have to go fast and hard and that usally means a dislocation.