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  1. #16
    There are some joint pressure moves, but the guys let's them go and moves on, it is friendly display of skill, he is not looking for a tap out, or trying to hurt the other guy.

    Nice display of control and skill.

    There are two other short videos of the guy doing kind of a YiQuan slow to medium speed set.

    Definitely an internal guy.

  2. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinDan View Post
    There are a few wrist locks. There are manipulations of wrist, elbow, and shoulder joint. There are grabs, yin-yang grabs, and pulling. There is pressure point striking/pressing. There is grabbing the throat.

    All of that is chinna. At least in my education.
    And guess what? Those wrist locks are a big part of what makes that demo a bunch of b.s.

  3. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Grumblegeezer View Post
    Fax, dude! You are so negative. Chin na is outside my realm of knowledge, but it sure looks like a grappler could use stuff like that outside of competition to really put some extra hurt on a guy. Trouble is it's not safe to use in competition. Still, everyone has an extra bag of dirty tricks. What's wrong with adding some more nasty stuff to that bag?
    Um, hello!!?? You can use all that (except for strikes) in any submission grappling tourney.

    Like I said go to a submission grappling tourney and see what happens. A lot of the stuff shown there will get you put on your @ss.

  4. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonzbane76 View Post
    learn same basic concepts in HS wrestling programs except in wrestling its used in an environment of resistance with full range of motion and not static like in this vid.
    Which are more reasons why this clip is b.s.

  5. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinDan View Post
    There are a few wrist locks. There are manipulations of wrist, elbow, and shoulder joint. There are grabs, yin-yang grabs, and pulling. There is pressure point striking/pressing. There is grabbing the throat.
    See the bolded above. That is the only part of the clip that is not b.s. And even most of those would be shut down by most high school wrestlers.

  6. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinDan View Post
    Well, that's a nice thing to say.

    I have nothing left to say. Obviously we have different definitions of chinna. Which would explain why we have different ideas of its efficacy. No real disagreement at all, except over words...no big deal. Glad at least that you thought the stuff in the video was decent.

    The stuff in the clip was not decent.

  7. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post

    They are different (though related) skills. Again, what is being shown here is a lot more akin to "pummeling" which is why it is impressive, ie it is stuff that would , gasp!, WORK
    Except they left out any kind of shoulder control and over wraps, which is another reason it is b.s.

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    Nice trolling Fax. Keep up the good work. It's slow on the weekend, I'm sure you'll catch something tomorrow.

  9. #24
    Wait!

    It can't be chin na or have chin na in it because that isn't what the label says?

    There are a few wrist and elbow movements that ARE related to chin na movements!

    Does that make it a chin na vid?

    I guess it is a matter of perspective!

    It isn't strict chin na, but has some chin na related movements.

    Call it push hands with some wrist and elbow locks/attacks then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R. Brown View Post
    Does that make it a chin na vid?

    I guess it is a matter of perspective!
    Compare to the folllowing Chin Na 2 men form, what's the difference?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4LVjwPGhQg

  11. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Compare to the folllowing Chin Na 2 men form, what's the difference?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4LVjwPGhQg
    This one is rehearsed, which makes it even more unrealistic.

  12. #27
    I like the passing 3 guards with left and right hand in turn

    or climbing the arms.

    1. wrist

    2. above the elbow

    3. shoulder

    i also like the strikes

    1. wrist

    2. elbow

    3. shoulder

    once you pass shoulder guard, you may reach the neck

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  13. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Compare to the folllowing Chin Na 2 men form, what's the difference?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4LVjwPGhQg
    yes

    it shows moves and counter moves.

    even thou, each move is the end move or na fa.

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    Gotta be careful of those useless standing joint locks

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_718dOW09k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leecBqLeQdg

    As usual its is HOW and WHEN a technique is done that make sit effective.
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  15. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Gotta be careful of those useless standing joint locks

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_718dOW09k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leecBqLeQdg

    As usual its is HOW and WHEN a technique is done that make sit effective.
    That version of arm bar (I am tempted to say "waki gatame" but not sure?) was legal in Judo for years and while low percentage, did work ... I would also say you'd probably find more examples IN GI because the Gi makes it easier to pull off
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