MMA did Help the Evolution of TCMA

[MightyB]

MMA did help the evolution of TCMA. It gave it a healthy dose of "c'mon man - quit pulling my leg with that crap". But honestly - I think the horse has been done beat to death. There are a lot of posters who put up good techniques and bring up good points. What I'm getting tired of is this dogmatic this or that attitude or stance that's being brought by both sides. Instead of comparing and sharing - it's always the same "my p3nis is bigger than your p3nis" argument. How about having a - "have you guys thought about incorporating this technique to counter a single leg takedown?" discussions instead of these "if it ain't MMA it's stupid" (with a polite but contemptious nod to SanDa - polite, but it's not Thai Boxing so it ain't a real MA).

[Snipsky]

MMA did help the evolution of MMA

Type o? .............................

[Snipsky]

This forum has become a safe haven for trolls.

However, everything gets its time in the spot light. Kung Fu had it, TKD, BJJ, UFC.....now its MMA. what will be next? Maybe realistic battle with real weaponry?

what matters is that what BJJ and MMA has done for the further evolution of TCMA. in my opinion its a good thing and we need to give thanks where it is deserved. The strong will survive and the rest will fall to the way side.

I can say Muay Thai and HOW they train woke me up to better way of training. BJJ made me realize that its necessary to have good ground skills, not just for sport but in case on the streets you go to the ground. What MMA has done for me was made me see that our conditioning and reliance on the expectation of "IT JUST BEING THERE" cause i trained so long was false.

WU DE messed up TCMA more than anything cause it stole the essence of what it was all about in the first place. People who fought in the streets were called THUGS while the intellectuals and biatches would preach about Wu De while the thugs went out and fought it out and learned what worked and what didn't. some teachers would tell their students not to come back unless they got into a fight. much of that has been lost.

MMA did to kung fu what the cell phone did to the beeper. while the beeper became obsolete, it was incorporated into the cell phones then turned into text paging. it got swallowed up into the latest in technology. The beeper could have survived if it included a way for two way communication but it couldn't cut it.

some kung fu people have woken up and going with the flow. you are seeing more and more TCMA in the ring more than ever now even though its not that often.

[pateticorecords]

Nicely put!

I believe in incorporating all that you can to progress your skill level and understanding of other arts and combat sports. It helps put into perspective the reality of what you learn traditionally. There is a significant difference, as we all can agree upon, between training for sport, self defense, recreation, or health yet there is a fine line that unifies all of the variants. One can not become complacent, one must always seek to further our martial knowledge, absorb what is useful and incorporate it into your skills.

What I find interesting is that one mindset of thought tries to invalidate the other when both can coexist, learn from each, and flourish.

"don't knock it until you've tried it" :-)

This forum has become a safe haven for trolls.

However, everything gets its time in the spot light. Kung Fu had it, TKD, BJJ, UFC.....now its MMA. what will be next? Maybe realistic battle with real weaponry?

what matters is that what BJJ and MMA has done for the further evolution of TCMA. in my opinion its a good thing and we need to give thanks where it is deserved. The strong will survive and the rest will fall to the way side.

I can say Muay Thai and HOW they train woke me up to better way of training. BJJ made me realize that its necessary to have good ground skills, not just for sport but in case on the streets you go to the ground. What MMA has done for me was made me see that our conditioning and reliance on the expectation of "IT JUST BEING THERE" cause i trained so long was false.

WU DE messed up TCMA more than anything cause it stole the essence of what it was all about in the first place. People who fought in the streets were called THUGS while the intellectuals and biatches would preach about Wu De while the thugs went out and fought it out and learned what worked and what didn't. some teachers would tell their students not to come back unless they got into a fight. much of that has been lost.

MMA did to kung fu what the cell phone did to the beeper. while the beeper became obsolete, it was incorporated into the cell phones then turned into text paging. it got swallowed up into the latest in technology. The beeper could have survived if it included a way for two way communication but it couldn't cut it.

some kung fu people have woken up and going with the flow. you are seeing more and more TCMA in the ring more than ever now even though its not that often.

[Mattador]

This forum has become a safe haven for trolls.

However, everything gets its time in the spot light. Kung Fu had it, TKD, BJJ, UFC.....now its MMA. what will be next? Maybe realistic battle with real weaponry?

what matters is that what BJJ and MMA has done for the further evolution of TCMA. in my opinion its a good thing and we need to give thanks where it is deserved. The strong will survive and the rest will fall to the way side.

I can say Muay Thai and HOW they train woke me up to better way of training. BJJ made me realize that its necessary to have good ground skills, not just for sport but in case on the streets you go to the ground. What MMA has done for me was made me see that our conditioning and reliance on the expectation of "IT JUST BEING THERE" cause i trained so long was false.

WU DE messed up TCMA more than anything cause it stole the essence of what it was all about in the first place. People who fought in the streets were called THUGS while the intellectuals and biatches would preach about Wu De while the thugs went out and fought it out and learned what worked and what didn't. some teachers would tell their students not to come back unless they got into a fight. much of that has been lost.

MMA did to kung fu what the cell phone did to the beeper. while the beeper became obsolete, it was incorporated into the cell phones then turned into text paging. it got swallowed up into the latest in technology. The beeper could have survived if it included a way for two way communication but it couldn't cut it.

some kung fu people have woken up and going with the flow. you are seeing more and more TCMA in the ring more than ever now even though its not that often.

This post is interesting. BJJ taught you that you the need for ground skills. What have you gained from your tcma training?

[Brule]

to Mattador ^

I have gained the skill to apply my downward elbow to a guy going for the shot.

Just picture a guy flattened out under the elbow:

[KC Elbows]

I prefer to use my iron crotch against the double leg. Obvious, really.

[faxiapreta]

MMA did help the evolution of MMA. It gave it a healthy dose of "c'mon man - quit pulling my leg with that crap". But honestly - I think the horse has been done beat to death. There are a lot of posters who put up good techniques and bring up good points. What I'm getting tired of is this dogmatic this or that attitude or stance that's being brought by both sides. Instead of comparing and sharing - it's always the same "my p3nis is bigger than your p3nis" argument. How about having a - "have you guys thought about incorporating this technique to counter a single leg takedown?" discussions instead of these "if it ain't MMA it's stupid" (with a polite but contemptious nod to SanDa - polite, but it's not Thai Boxing so it ain't a real MA).

Based on a lot of the posts here regarding Iron Palm, stance training, Jow, unrealistic techniques with no evidence behind them, pressure points, etc, MMA had no healthy effect on many people. They are just as deluded as ever.

[Lucas]

Based on a lot of the posts here regarding Iron Palm, stance training, Jow, unrealistic techniques with no evidence behind them, pressure points, etc, MMA had no healthy effect on many people. They are just as deluded as ever.

yes every single person on the planet. you have interviewed them all and in no way focus on those individuals you want to.

[Snipsky]

Based on a lot of the posts here regarding Iron Palm, stance training, Jow, unrealistic techniques with no evidence behind them, pressure points, etc, MMA had no healthy effect on many people. They are just as deluded as ever.

you so full of positivity

[wenshu]

Based on a lot of the posts here regarding Iron Palm, stance training, Jow, unrealistic techniques with no evidence behind them, pressure points, etc, MMA had no healthy effect on many people. They are just as deluded as ever.

To that list I would add hanging out at places where you have no interest in anything being discussed other than to entertain your own inferiority complex.

Look, I don't come down to your forum and start pontificating about how to properly apply a ball gag on your gimp.

[Snipsky]

and Faxiepretty is still upset that he couldn't beat a kung fu guy at something as simple as a horse stance. howwwwww LAME is that

He would LOSE....LOSE.....LOSE.......but he'd still talk smack, its the only time his life partner lets him out of his cage.

[lkfmdc]

modern MMA was a golden opportunity for all martial arts and martial artists and you can certainly find those who DID benefit from the revolution in ideas

Of course, just like in other things some people are threatened by change. This is especially true when that change threatens concepts they have held close for long periods of time and which could be proven false

[Yum Cha]

Too many masters who are no longer students? Too many pompus know-it-alls who struggle to protect their own agenda? Shirley, you jest?

I think its called the Human Condition, and you find it everywhere inversely proportional to the real skill on tap.

Anybody work in Advertising...

[TenTigers]

To that list I would add hanging out at places where you have no interest in anything being discussed other than to entertain your own inferiority complex.

Look, I don't come down to your forum and start pontificating about how to properly apply a ball gag on your gimp.

quoted for truth...and for being funny as sh1t!