Another thing to add is some snap kicks can be trained to produce serious power. I remember you stating in your Taekwondo days your lead leg had knockout type of power, and i have trained with and sparred guys who had this as well. Different things work for different people. Much like when people tell me ax kicks are useless and don't work and I show them a video of Andy Hug.
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I read something about steroids a few pages back. Let us be honest here about
UFC fighters. Most of them probably dope just like in every other competitive sport accept for golf and pool.
Until they establish Olympic style drug testing we will never know the truth. If two competitors are equally matched you cannot deny that steroids will give one an edge. Eg: Chael Sonnen vs Anderson Silva. Chael is a great wrestler but I believe the steroids allowed him to beat Silva for five rounds until Silva submitted him.
Arguing about who is on steroids or not is kinda not worth arguing. Without access to Ron for questioning or his drug test results you will never know.
Just assume that he was and let it go.
Humble can you not see the inconsistency of saying on the one hand cung lee (after I posted a clip of him) isn’t a good example of TCMA kicking because he does TKD, then posting a clip of TKD kicking to show good TCMA kicking (im not even going to mention the other kick it was that bad) then arguing Ron isn’t a good example of TCMA in a full contact event because he did point sparring…………news flash he is TCMA and it was a full contact event, how does that NOT make it TCMA in a full contact event? If you can do better please show us
As for the roids thing again nothing screams to me he was on them, I don’t have any prove he does and since you bench over 400 squat over 600 and are big yourself we should ask do you take them?
I thought that you would say that. The videos that I found were just one's that appeared consistent with what I believe to be correct TCMA kicking. Admittedly the JKD kick wasn't a great example (which I said), but it had some elements that are worth thinking about. He did a good job of generating a good amount of power via speed. But, yea, there are a lot of shenanigans in that video.
I just said that he looked like he was points fighting. He was a product of the time. That's all I was trying to point out. I didn't say that it was good or bad.
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It would have been more correct if I would have just said that he wasn't demonstrating things in those highlights that represented TCMA by my understanding Which is fine. I don't really care if TCMA guys necessarily go out and represent TCMA. However, I think that people with a TCMA background will find certain things help them in full-contact and they will continue to use them in the ring.
I study kung fu. can you tell me what is a kung fu kick? or how TCMA is supposed to kick? i'm confused. i thought what ever kick works the best for you to achieve maximum power and speed is what you should do or work on.It would have been more correct if I would have just said that he wasn't demonstrating things in those highlights that represented TCMA by my understanding Which is fine.
I agree. There is no one kick that a TCMA practitioner has to rely upon. I learned every kind of kick from the snappiest TKD looking thing to the heaviest "thai" kick in TCMA. I think that there is just a standard basic kicking method that exemplifies TCMA, but it/we are certainly not limited to one kick or method.
I was just trying to discuss what would typically be taught to a beginner in TCMA.
i feel you. the only thing that matters when kicking is if its effective, fast, and powerful. IMHO, nothing else matters. we all have kicks. they change tho' when it comes to actual combat. People who have fought know "I don't wanna kick like this because...." so they adapt whatever kicking method that matches them.I agree. There is no one kick that a TCMA practitioner has to rely upon. I learned every kind of kick from the snappiest TKD looking thing to the heaviest "thai" kick in TCMA. I think that there is just a standard basic kicking method that exemplifies TCMA, but it/we are certainly not limited to one kick or method.
I was just trying to discuss what would typically be taught to a beginner in TCMA.
Ok i'm out of this convo cause i only wanted to know if you thought there was a specific way or element that says something is a kung fu kick. peace.
CMA, as I learned, generally will chamber the side kick differ from other styles. The tkd and karate side kick I learn chamber the sidekick a diff way
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