What Stands Out About TCMAists in The Ring?

**HumbleWCGuy** · 07-14-2011, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by Frost

Nope all thais are told to keep at least 1 hand up

It depends on the kick. On a hard teep for instance you might see the hands go a good bit down from the on guard.
Concerning my previous post.
I said Thais (plural). In the interest of subject verb agreement, I said hands (plural). However, whether it is one or two hands it depends upon the particulars of the kick. I was considering all kicks, you of course just considered the round house because that's about where your knowledge stops.

Originally Posted by Frost

most keep both

No they don't expecially not traditionally trained.

Originally Posted by Frost

....just so we can be clear my striking knowledge for TCMA comes from my old master who trained semi and full contact fighters for decades, my second sifu who trained guys for sanda and my thai knowledge comes from my MMA coach who has cornered and trained the likes of paul daley, jimmy wallhead (also a coach of mine) dan hardy etc, so whats your thai background, whats your stikeing background........... so we can compare

Again, why is your knowlege of TCMA kicking so poor?

**KC Elbows** · 07-14-2011, 06:50 AM

You know what this thread needs more of?

A solid mix of latin dance links and discussions of why the Shah of Iran was overthrown to make way for widespread water fluoridation in Iran as part of a Planned Parenthood plot to reduce the non-Kennedy human population to zero.

**David Jamieson** · 07-14-2011, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by KC Elbows

You know what this thread needs more of?

A solid mix of latin dance links and discussions of why the Shah of Iran was overthrown to make way for widespread water fluoridation in Iran as part of a Planned Parenthood plot to reduce the non-Kennedy human population to zero.

Also, that thing about the Japanese construction company cancelling their iranian contract because they kept using their cranes to publically execute people.

anyway, that's why the shah was deposed.

not enough crane hangings.

**KC Elbows** · 07-14-2011, 07:05 AM

I have always been partial to crane style.

**Frost** · 07-14-2011, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by HumbleWCGuy

It depends on the kick. On a hard teep for instance you might see the hands go a good bit down from the on guard. But I said Thais (plural) in the interest of subject verb agreement, I said hands (plural).

No they don't expecially not traditionally trained.

Again, why is your knowlege of TCMA kicking so poor?

this was how i was taught to teep, one hand extending towards the opponent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMMBR...eature=related

here another one, sometimes his front hand drops down, sometimes it extends out, the other hand always stays high
now onto thais
here a very traditional version drops one hand to swim the hip through the other stays high though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2a7X...eature=related

finally some high kicks again hands stay high with one extending towards the opponent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APtIq...eature=related

training at master toddys notice how 1 hand is always up even if the other is swimming the hip through?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr_w4...C125A1093683C9

**Frost** · 07-14-2011, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by David Jamieson

Also, that thing about the Japanese construction company cancelling their iranian contract because they kept using their cranes to publically execute people.

anyway, that's why the shah was deposed.

not enough crane hangings.

dont you encourage him

**KC Elbows** · 07-14-2011, 07:11 AM

Does anyone have any contact info for CYMAC?

**KC Elbows** · 07-14-2011, 07:17 AM

I only ask because I'm looking for an anti-mma double bat form designed by some sort of divine being.

**HumbleWCGuy** · 07-14-2011, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Frost

this was how i was taught to teep, one hand extending towards the opponent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMMBR...eature=related

here another one, sometimes his front hand drops down, sometimes it extends out, the other hand always stays high
now onto thais
here a very traditional version drops one hand to swim the hip through the other stays high though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2a7X...eature=related

finally some high kicks again hands stay high with one extending towards the opponent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APtIq...eature=related

training at master toddys notice how 1 hand is always up even if the other is swimming the hip through?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr_w4...C125A1093683C9

Here is how I learned to make my subjects agree with my verbs http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/sv_agr.htm. I am well aware that the thais mostly train to drop one hand. I guess you can call it reaching if you want is some instances. I m not a thai and don't claim to be so I don't care to use their terminology on a TCMA forum.

Now, if you had done more than watch videos and larp your upright you would know that when these kicks come at their hardest, a lot of guys will drop both hands increase momentum at the beginning of the kick to buffer some of the momentum at then end. It happens all the time and you would understand that if you knew something.

Again, why are you showing me muay thai videos? What I want to know is why your knowlege of TCMA kicking is so poor? Are there not enough Youtube videos on the matter?

**HumbleWCGuy** · 07-14-2011, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Frost

this was how i was taught to teep, one hand extending towards the opponent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMMBR...eature=related

here another one, sometimes his front hand drops down, sometimes it extends out, the other hand always stays high
now onto thais
here a very traditional version drops one hand to swim the hip through the other stays high though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2a7X...eature=related

finally some high kicks again hands stay high with one extending towards the opponent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APtIq...eature=related

training at master toddys notice how 1 hand is always up even if the other is swimming the hip through?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr_w4...C125A1093683C9

From those videos that you posted, if you don't see the difference between the affordences of TCMA kicking (even "TCMA ring kicking"), you aren't an instructor of TCMA.

**Frost** · 07-14-2011, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by HumbleWCGuy

Here is how I learned to make my subjects agree with my verbs http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/sv_agr.htm. I am well aware that the thais mostly train to drop one hand. I guess you can call it reaching if you want is some instances. I m not a thai and don't claim to be so I don't care to use their terminology on a TCMA forum.

Now, if you had done more than watch videos and larp your upright you would know that when these kicks come at their hardest, a lot of guys will drop both hands increase momentum at the beginning of the kick to buffer some of the momentum at then end. It happens all the time and you would understand that if you knew something.

Again, why are you showing me muay thai videos? What I want to know is why your knowlege of TCMA kicking is so poor? Are there not enough Youtube videos on the matter?

well i did post cung lee but you dont agree with how he kicks after all it tKD he does, and i showed the thai stuff to prove you incorrect when you talked abuut them dropping there hands and being out of position after the kick, are those kicks the same as you see in tcma, h*ll no and please quote where i said they were...........

**HumbleWCGuy** · 07-14-2011, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Frost

well i did post cung lee but you dont agree with how he kicks after all it tKD he does, and i showed the thai stuff to prove you incorrect when you talked abuut them dropping there hands and being out of position after the kick, are those kicks the same as you see in tcma, h*ll no and please quote where i said they were...........

I love the fact that you don't know subject verb agreement.
1. Which sentences are correct:
A. Frost is an U.K. Hillbilly.
B. Frost are a U.K. Hillbilly.

This is a thread about things that stand out about TCMA fighters in the ring. I made a comparison that you tried to challenge with Cung le (A TKD guy who fights San da).

Then you tried to say that most MT schools keep both hands up. Then you proved yourself wrong by posting clips.

**HumbleWCGuy** · 07-14-2011, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Frost

well i did post cung lee but you dont agree with how he kicks after all it tKD he does,

I said:

Originally Posted by HumbleWCGuy

I think that one thing that stand out is that the kicking is has a good combination of speed and power. Somewhat snappy like TKD, but with some hip like MT. Also, I think that a lot of the San da fighters display a good transition between hands and feet. Meaning that a good bit of the time in MT, you will see guys either just kick in an exchange or just punch because they don't transition from one to the other as well.

You sarcastically said:

Originally Posted by Frost

yep thai guys suck at combining hands and feet ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCocBsKI5vU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjY8a...eature=related

where as heres sanda star cung lee absolutely not throwing single kicks and absolutely not throwing punch combinations without kicks....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kItU8sK7jgg id also like to say im impressd how cung lee uses snap kicks and doesnt roll his hips into his round kicks or really throw his weight into his side kicks...oh wait my bad he does

Since the tread topic is about TCMA and my comment concerned TCMA kicking, it is quite clear that you think that Cung Le, performing San Da, does kicking that is representative of TCMA. Cung les round would be more indicative of MT.

**sanjuro_ronin** · 07-14-2011, 07:47 AM

Wow, 3 pages and nothing that shows "what stands out" about TCMA in the ring.
Excellent work guys !

**SPJ** · 07-14-2011, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by KC Elbows

You know what this thread needs more of?

A solid mix of latin dance links and discussions of why the Shah of Iran was overthrown to make way for widespread water fluoridation in Iran as part of a Planned Parenthood plot to reduce the non-Kennedy human population to zero.

yes, latin dance is always a good mix of traditional and new. such as salsa is mix from swing or tango so are TCMA (mix of old and new stuff)

yes, the royal family of shah was overthrown, and the country was ruled by religious fundamentalist, no exposing wimmins skins or cover your daughters and 4 wives, so that men are not lured into sinning by looking at their faces, arms and legs--

yes planned parenthood is not about using condoms or pills

it is about aborting fetus from "unwanted pregnancy" or planned abortions paid by the federal, state, public or your tax money.

kennedy family is sort of royal family or powerful family since pre WWII.

if another kennedy is in the presidency, we will reach the mars and beyond, and not calling off 30 year old space shuttle programs, and shut down huston economy

huston will be expanding with more nasa scientists and astro nauts

rise up you all kennedy people, we need elect another kennedy like president into office, balance the budget by cutting everything else except space programs etc

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