What Stands Out About TCMAists in The Ring?

[HumbleWCGuy]

The kid is TKD, but he is doing something that I would consider a half-decent roundhouse by TCMA standards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIawb...eature=related
What makes it good is when the foot travels continuously from the floor to the target. He still chambers but the foot never stops making angular progress. He gets some hip in his kick too, but it doesn't spin him.

What I consider bad is when I see the discontinuous snap. It gets taught that way but a lot of people never move beyond it. Chamber...Fire... Chamber.... Down.... um... No Thanks...

[lkfmdc]

you are making yourself perfectly clear now

[Ray Pina]

I posted the following a month or so ago to point out what I thought were more "internal" movements vs. "external" movements from some old fight clips.

I apologize if it's redundant and doesn't fir here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA6sLOQpO4w

at 46 seconds in. That is an internal strike. Tai Ji opening move

at 1:05 internal-ish intercept, wedging entry... lost it/sloppy then external striking

1:30 definitely internal uplifting. E-Chuan 100%

2:42 to 3:05 pure external

3:22 is a beautiful display of back-foot-driven, intercept-and-stick-and-follow, knock someone down and spin them power. An example of skill if I saw so myself.

[Northwind]

I only ask because I'm looking for an anti-mma double bat form designed by some sort of divine being.

Hey wait a minute. I just realized that dude disappeared. Where'd he go?

[Yum Cha]

TCMA tournaments used to look like this. Minimum padding, hard floors, young guys with more heart than skill testing their metal. Some great matches, some sloppy slugfests...

some gross mismatches too...

Rules, regulations and liability drove them into new rule sets or alternative formats....i.e. mma, points, or anything between.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6aUq...eature=related

They stopped in Australia about 92. 80s were the heyday. I think the one above is Taiwan, that's what it says, but lots of round eyes...

[Frost]

ron van cleef in full contact mode, still not to many combinations like we were told to expect, but some lovely stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QquDp...layer_embedded

[HumbleWCGuy]

ron van cleef in full contact mode, still not to many combinations like we were told to expect, but some lovely stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QquDp...layer_embedded

He looks like he is out there points fighting really. He looks to be on steroids. I wonder if he would have any hope at all without?

[Frost]

What he looks like is irrelevant he was fighting full contact and did it for a number of years in any venue he could find, even fought in the UFC in his 50’s, did you see the knock downs and the knock out at the start, hardly point sparring

As for the steroids point, he’s not that big he was in great shape but then from everything I have heard he was a great athlete and trained hard, even with steroids if he didn’t have any skill he would have got creamed

I think it’s a fallacy to put down someones skill level or say winning or losing is down to them using steroids, I have known a couple of pro fighters who have thought about taking PEDs, and none of them thought about it for the reasons most think. Usually its to help them get over an injury quicker so they can get back into training.

[HumbleWCGuy]

What he looks like is irrelevant he was fighting full contact and did it for a number of years in any venue he could find, even fought in the UFC in his 50’s, did you see the knock downs and the knock out at the start, hardly point sparring

Points fighting is full contact at the black belt level. What's going on here is not significantly different from what Ron was doing in the upright. Ron was just following up more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SEn76cE9TQ

As for the steroids point, he’s not that big he was in great shape but then from everything I have heard he was a great athlete and trained hard, even with steroids if he didn’t have any skill he would have got creamed

Steroid use was different back then. Remember Arnold only weight 230. Lots of guys on the juice weigh under 200.

I think it’s a fallacy to put down someones skill level or say winning or losing is down to them using steroids,

It was clearly steroids in that case.

I have known a couple of profighters who have thought about taking PEDs, and none of them thought about it for the reasons most think. Usually its to help them get over an injury quicker so they can get back into training.

Lifetime natural and not testing positive on competition day are two different things. Whatever the reason it give a competitive advantage on competition day.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Ron was never on roids, it just wasn't an option for MA in those days as it was for BB.
He was just in great shape, like Lewis and others.
Ron was always out there, as were so many others, fighting FC where ever they could find it.
The fact that he was such a fighter and so well respected is why Royce beat him with such respect.

[lkfmdc]

TCMA tournaments used to look like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6aUq...eature=related

glorified kickboxing

[lkfmdc]

ron van cleef in full contact mode,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QquDp...layer_embedded

MMA knucklehead

[lkfmdc]

Points fighting is full contact at the black belt level. What's going on here is not significantly different from what Ron was doing in the upright. Ron was just following up more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SEn76cE9TQ

with every post you make who and what you are more clear

[HumbleWCGuy]

Ron was never on roids, it just wasn't an option for MA in those days as it was for BB.

You'll have to explain that.

[HumbleWCGuy]

with every post you make who and what you are more clear

Back to being a troll? LOL... It's pretty easy to see when someone is selling out to land a single shot. That's pretty much what ron is doing.