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  1. #16
    in addition

    sometimes, you need to eat certain foods and avoid other

    you need to do certain activity or chores

    so as to complete or ready your body for your gong.


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    What do you mean by chores? the only thing we really do before it is circulatory exercises which also strengthen tendones and ligaments and puts pressure down into the arms and hands.

    What sought of foods would you keep waway from? master Zhou had the BSCLF guy's abstaine from caffeine and spicy food aswell as sex when doing his kung.

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    Here is a brief brief translation so our western friends can know such reference exist in a holistic style in China.


    内功经
    Neigong classic



    内功之传,脉络甚真,不知脉络,勉强用之,则无益而有损。
    The transmission of Neigong, one needs to know the medirians of Qi flow properly. Not knowing the medirians of Qi; brute force/ forcefully / not accord to the medirians handling the issue. There will be no benifit but damage.






    卷一内功篇
    Scroll one, the Neigong chapter.




    学医道者,不可不明乎经络,何况习内功乎?
    Those who study chinese medicine must know Qi flow medirians, for those who practice Neigong even needed.


    若不明脉络,犹习射而操弓矢,其不能也决矣。
    If there is no understanding in medirians, that is like learning how to shoot arrow without knowing the handing of bow. one has no direction.


    能内景遂道,返观而 以察之,则体用兼备矣。
    capable of knowing the inner path ways, one watches it and examine it, only in that way the " body " and " its applications" are holistic/complete mastered.



    前任后督,气行滚滚....

    Ren medirian in front and Du medirian at the back, Zhen Qi flow strongly....

  4. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by aussie1981 View Post
    What do you mean by chores? the only thing we really do before it is circulatory exercises which also strengthen tendones and ligaments and puts pressure down into the arms and hands.

    What sought of foods would you keep waway from? master Zhou had the BSCLF guy's abstaine from caffeine and spicy food aswell as sex when doing his kung.
    depending what you try to accomplish

    each gong method has different prerequisite or requirement.

    usually we need drilling of a certain move. it is increased in intensity over time. thus boring, I consider them chores.

    for example, in tong bei

    there is this relaxation of the wrist joint or fo wan gong.

    there are so many drills that needed to be repeated

    1. bending back as far as you can, relax, repeat

    2. bending forward as far as you can, relax, repeat

    3. shaking up and down relax, repeat (shuai shou)

    4. swirling clockwise 25 times, relax and repeat

    5. swirling counterclockwise 25 times, relax and repeat

    on and on

    the whole session can be a few minutes to 45 minutes or longer.

    over time

    you increase the intensity and even adding weights/rings around the wrist

    or grabbing a weighted ball or bar,

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    do you think that all this chores or not chores

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  5. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by aussie1981 View Post
    What do you mean by chores? the only thing we really do before it is circulatory exercises which also strengthen tendones and ligaments and puts pressure down into the arms and hands.

    What sought of foods would you keep waway from? master Zhou had the BSCLF guy's abstaine from caffeine and spicy food aswell as sex when doing his kung.


    follow Zhou's instruction, that is proper path.

    soft drink , caffiene, spicy food, and sex has big time impact on nervous system.

    the first step of Neigong is Settle the mind and emotion, proper diet and avoid extreme emotion such as anger and sex or rage is very important.


    Otherwise, one starts practice with a choas mind and emotion or internal stress/excitation that end up one will not be able to handle the qi flow and body but imbalance.


    So the training will amplify the problem if things are not settle before training, that lead one to side track and lost control instead of balance.

    depend on the health condition, that imbalance cause damage. for those who is less healthy, one needs to seriously pay attention.

    the whole deal is to let the body- mind to settle and balance itself. training without the platform settle and balance is suicide.

  6. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    soft drink , caffiene, spicy food, and sex has big time impact on nervous system.
    So you mean no tea?

  7. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by rett View Post
    So you mean no tea?

    no strong tea.


    it also depend on how is your body condition and how heavy the training.

  8. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    no strong tea.

    it also depend on how is your body condition and how heavy the training.
    So a little bit of soft drink or tea or coffee is okay, as long as you pay attention to how you feel and make sure it's not harming your training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rett View Post
    So a little bit of soft drink or tea or coffee is okay, as long as you pay attention to how you feel and make sure it's not harming your training?

    ya.

    in general, make sure 1hour before and after the training not having it and no cold drink. so that you dont shock your system. Body takes times to dissolve and settle.

    Think of it as how to handle a chemical system that will give you a good way to handle this. Dont need to get mysterious or too concern. it is all common sense.

    Sex is draining kidney, kidney got to do with lots of stuffs and bone, so to abstain that 100 days is to strengthen the bone too.

    So, for those serious practioner who did 4 hours per day, those are the one needs very careful care. and most of us are not in that catagory. but it is better to watch out.

    usually, no Qigong/ meditation 6 hours before and after sex. that is to let the body settle after the draining.
    Last edited by Hendrik; 07-20-2011 at 03:33 PM.

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    SPJ I would most definately consider them chores

    I can see how soft drink would effect it but i'm a fan of spicy food, it's cool to see how other people train it. All this isn't needed for the power we train in Yang Mian, it's a paradox. Sex and alcohol make it feel better as your bodies looser and able to relax deeper. Wheras the Wu style guy's say there's doesn't feel as good. There main nei kung is posture based where ours is moving and dynamic as well as posture exercises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie1981 View Post
    SPJ I would most definately consider them chores

    I can see how soft drink would effect it but i'm a fan of spicy food, it's cool to see how other people train it.

    All this isn't needed for the power we train in Yang Mian, it's a paradox. Sex and alcohol make it feel better as your bodies looser and able to relax deeper.

    Wheras the Wu style guy's say there's doesn't feel as good. There main nei kung is posture based where ours is moving and dynamic as well as posture exercises.


    Spicy food effect on lung and Heart functions, if I remember correctly.

    CLF has lots of internal Gong.

    TCMA which doesnt taking care of sex and diet and alcohol are hard style fighting art which will cause internal organs injury at old age in general.


    all Chinese internal art starts with Shao Lin's Yijining to Taiji gong......etc which has healing and curing ability are all Sex, diet, alcohol, emotion abstaint type.
    Last edited by Hendrik; 07-20-2011 at 08:36 PM.

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    The blood and oxygen are what carries it around the body, hence we call it internal presure. Not sure iff alcohol and the rest really effect it that much, the body is more than equiped to get rid of these thing's.

    The start of the training is very differnt from clf, no stances or forms. Just power building exercises and exercises to move that pressure around. The body has to go from relaxed to switched on full of pressure in an instant, a bit like blocking your nose when sneezing. No hard muscle power used.

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    What style do you train Hendrik? do you do the 8 brocades or 18 lohan or anything similar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie1981 View Post
    What style do you train Hendrik? do you do the 8 brocades or 18 lohan or anything similar?
    I train in many different styles. Going beyond 8 brocades... etc

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    The best way to get rid of thoughts and the need of sex, is to have sex.

    The point, as with all things, is to not overdo it. Not having something your body needs is as much a distraction as over-zealous pursuit of these things.

    The body has a biological need for sex. This is normal and the way the body was designed. The body's need for sex is no different than the need for food, air, and water in that they are all natural bodily needs. They all serve a useful purpose, when not taken to extremes. The only dfference is you can live without sex, but not without food, water or air.

    It is best to practice balance in all things!

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