New Sheriff In Town...

[Lucas]

oh sweet! now that im starting to look into chinas top combat sport fighters im seeing a pretty good amount of sanda guys kicking butt in muay thai and mma.

now, i know that sanda is in and of itself a form of mixed martial arts, in that a lot of the fighters have what seems to be backgrounds in kungfu, boxing, muay thai and tae kwon do. but at the same time you cant discount someones background, unless they themselves do. its a pretty safe bet that a good portion of chinese fighters will have backgrounds in chinese martial arts.

[hskwarrior]

now, i know that sanda is in and of itself a form of mixed martial arts, in that a lot of the fighters have what seems to be backgrounds in kungfu, boxing, muay thai and tae kwon do. but at the same time you cant discount someones background, unless they themselves do. its a pretty safe bet that a good portion of chinese fighters will have backgrounds in chinese martial arts

China won't let go of something that will give them big face. but yeah, lots of choy lee fut fighters (sorry, i'm so pro CLF) from China entering the arena these days. because from a striking point of view, CLF has the right tools meaning basic strikes (knee, elbow,long, med, short range), not to mention spinning back fists and sow choys, joint locks and take downs.

[bawang]

liu hailong never trained clf. he starred in a movie called clf.

[Lucas]

so slow at work today all ive been doing is watching fights lol

whats tough is finding out what actually makes up a sanda fighters game....

[hskwarrior]

liu hailong never trained clf. he starred in a movie called clf.

thats not what i was told. the person who introduced us was a Buk Sing sifu in guangzhou. info could be mistaken. but, others fighters representing China DO have CLF background.

but this is Choy Lee Fut in china training:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gat0DPowqZQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMjNG-eHU3s

[Taixuquan99]

I like technical discussion of kung fu more than this cr@p. You know, the stuff that Sanjuro, You KnowWho, Ross, TGY, and a few others provide.

This BS is a about twenty steps backwards. Aside from the trolling, which is what it deserves. Bawang has honor.

[Lucas]

[Ray Pina]

this is why white people cant have the real kung fu.

Amazing the mods let your un off at the mouth with personal and race-related remarks.

But it's a shame...

not to get into a d!ck measuring contest with an Asian (about as fair as whipping "guys who just wanted to spar") but when I got recruited to play college football I wound up going to school for free.

Shame. Shame.

The end result of martial arts is quality of life. With all your garbage you spew I thought maybe you were a seasoned Kung Fu man with a nice cushy job and corner office... and now I see your a college drop out what, at your mom's house using her internet?

The karma of things.

[Ray Pina]

I like technical discussion of kung fu more than this cr@p.

Me too. But as soon as something is posted requiring objective thinking, requiring some proof of claims.... people get all bent out of shape and start making personal attacks. Which is just beyond me. People who's Kung Fu is made of glass shouldn't throw stones.

In the end, I'm just asking questions:

Why are their so many masters of so many styles and so few (if any) fighters that can compare with modern standards.

Someone offered not everyone wants to be a Mike Tyson.... true! And not everyone is physically capable. But how do you deal with a Mike Tyson? How to do with a more powerful man who charges in but has controlled striking and discipline of movement.

BJJ has proven an answer to this dilemma? Taiji is a great theory. Kugn Fu's theory regarding force and resistance also seems promising..... but the results? There's been little if any testing. No results.

[Lucas]

what did you think about that shuai jiao fighter i linked for that legends fight Ray? im honestly just curious about your opinion.

[Ray Pina]

so slow at work today all ive been doing is watching fights lol

whats tough is finding out what actually makes up a sanda fighters game....

Thai Boxing kicks, striking and clinch. Fundamental throws.

[hskwarrior]

not to get into a d!ck measuring contest with an Asian (about as fair as whipping "guys who just wanted to spar"

So how many asian men have you whipped it out on and compared with? You just insinuated that you naturally have a larger kok than a an asian person would. How ironic is that?

[Ray Pina]

what did you think about that shuai jiao fighter i linked for that legends fight Ray? im honestly just curious about your opinion.

If it's the one with the two videos posted above he looks very good!!!!! Very disciplined in his movements. Power. Aggression.... looks pretty fierce.

One thing though, in the one video when they showed the gym.... I saw all the heavy bags hanging, guys in the ring, guys doing pad work.... I didn't see anyone in TCMA uniform, nobody doing forms, no weapons on the wall, no lions in the corner, no incense burning or alter.

I also see him pick his front foot up in a Thai Boxing fashion. The Thai Pad work... That makes sense to me since he's fighting.

I didn't see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFMmsWc-E_Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJDOi...eature=related

or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDzbmbjgCw


or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iQELK8LrdM

[Ray Pina]

So how many asian men have you whipped it out on and compared with? You just insinuated that you naturally have a larger kok than a an asian person would. How ironic is that?

I played football and other sports my whole life in a very mixed community Newark, NJ. I had Asian friends.... so athletic showers.

There's also a thing called Asian porn

[hskwarrior]

One thing though, in the one video when they showed the gym.... I saw all the heavy bags hanging, guys in the ring, guys doing pad work.... I didn't see anyone in TCMA uniform, nobody doing forms, no weapons on the wall, no lions in the corner, no incense burning or alter.

that doesn't mean they weren't representing a TCMA style.