Last edited by Lokhopkuen; 08-11-2011 at 02:50 PM.
To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders.
-Patanjali Samadhi
"Not engaging in ignorance is wisdom."
~ Bodhi
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To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders.
-Patanjali Samadhi
"Not engaging in ignorance is wisdom."
~ Bodhi
Never miss a good chance to shut up
Though it may sound like it, the following questions are not meant to stir up a hornet's nest, nor disparage Sifu Chan.
However....
Other than himself or his students, has anyone else attested that Sifu Chan is the lineage holder for tai shing pek kwar?
If others studied the art during Sifu Chan's time of study, who is to say it was not passed on to Cho Chat Ling and that he did not pass it on to Paulie Zink?
How does the fact that Sifu Zink received three books on TSPK from a friend of Sifu Ross' squash any chance that PZ didn't also study the art with Cho Chat Ling?
I think many of us here have seen enough martial arts politics to know that many "masters" lie, inflate the truth, or are looking out for their own best interests. Could this be an example of this? How do we know whose version of the story is more credible?
In an earlier post there was a photo of PZ with CCL, does anyone know if this is credible?
I know that Sifu Chan has produced good fighters in the past, starred in a movie (maybe more), trained others who became actors, wrote a few books and was featured in numerous articles. So, he certainly has been successful in promoting himself. But does this really make his version of events more credible than anyone else's?
I would love to hear what Y C Wong has to say on the subject, since he must know both parties involved in the debate.
BTW, does anyone know if Sifu Wong learned the monkey sets?
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To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders.
-Patanjali Samadhi
"Not engaging in ignorance is wisdom."
~ Bodhi
Never miss a good chance to shut up
Last edited by Lokhopkuen; 08-11-2011 at 08:27 PM.
To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders.
-Patanjali Samadhi
"Not engaging in ignorance is wisdom."
~ Bodhi
Never miss a good chance to shut up
Similarity in essence of technique but not in the construction of the practice set.
The plum flower group attack formation where players assault five against one from 2, 5, 6, 7 and 10 O'clock positions. Moi Fa Kuen trains to break out of the deadly plum flower ambush array.
To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders.
-Patanjali Samadhi
"Not engaging in ignorance is wisdom."
~ Bodhi
Never miss a good chance to shut up
Gan Duk Hoi's will, Lam Jo, about 100 sifu who are from HK, most of the wu lin, I don't know, pretty much everyone
"Cho Chat Ling" is a fictional person who doesn't exist. But other than that.....
Prior to my hing-dai giving Zink the books, Zink only called what he did "monkey style", he said his teacher was a secret, didnt apparently know there were 5 monkey sets, oh the list is long
I could tell you what YC Wong thinks of Zink's "pek kwar" but I'd probably get banned for foul language
That I personal know Wong Shifu didn’t learn Di Sheng and only a few sets of Piguaquan.
Again, one tale is that Chan learn the Di Sheng, because he married his shifu’s daughter which will make sense, i.e., keeping it in the family.
Chan Shifu did develop fighters in Hong Kong, but sadly when they came to fight in Hawaii they didn’t fair so well back in 70’s.
That's good to know, but sadly their lineages aren’t well known which gives Chan Shifu exclusively.
Indeed, but lately we have been seeing these lost lineages remerging which adds new introspective to varies disciplines, and actually rewriting the history books.