Matsuda's monkey dvds

[Mulong]

Do we know how supposedly Chan, learned the secret monkey sets?

[bawang]

the forms grew like tumors on a sick man.

*stroke beard

[ginosifu]

In this day in age that is simply crazy!

How long did you trained?

He was in Vancover British Columbia for a while so I flew out a couple times and learned several sets. He was charging like $400 a form. It got to be too expensive. I live in Cleveland and it was getting too hard with travel expenses going with gas prices and such.

ginosifu

[lkfmdc]

Do we know how supposedly Chan, learned the secret monkey sets?

I don't think there is any doubt he learned all 5

he was NOT the only one, he was just the student who was given the "inheritance" to run the organization

CTS had a friend in HK who also knew the monkey sets, there were (back then at least) many people who learned the sets from Gan Duk Hoi

But "back then" apparently you only had to learn 4 empty hand sets and two weapon sets before you learned it

how it became 128 sets is the real question

[Mulong]

That is a pretty penny for each set; dare I ask was the material worth it and how in-depth was the teaching?

[lkfmdc]

That is a pretty penny for each set;

I know someone who paid $1000 (back in the 1990's) to learn Min Loi Jam. All he got was the sequence, no explanation at all. Yet, stranger still, he was just happy to learn it, like he actually thought he had acquired something valuable

that is the kung fu mindset at it's worst

[Mulong]

David, we both know one well known shifu in NYC that was famous selling sets for mega bucks back in the days.

[ginosifu]

That is a pretty penny for each set; dare I ask was the material worth it and how in-depth was the teaching?

I got to learn a couple of basic Pek Kwar sets and Dao. No applications. Was not really worth the time and money. Here is a clip of me doing "Pek Kwar Kau Da" at his school:

http://shaolininstitute.com/institut..._viewer2.shtml

ginosifu

[lkfmdc]

Being Chinese YC Wong and his students did not put up the whole sets but here are the Pek Gwa roads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTuGLxjTbqA

what IS shown is shown in correct sequence

does any of this look familiar to you

[lkfmdc]

here are chan sau jung's versions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocLpo...eature=related

the guy did them as one form, sorta weird

[Mulong]

Ginosifu, truly appreciate your candidness on the matter. It saddens me hearing this, but I was awaiting this kind of response; it is the norm and this hurts CMA greatly to the point that it discourages individuals from learning and simply walk away from CMA.

[ginosifu]

Being Chinese YC Wong and his students did not put up the whole sets but here are the Pek Gwa roads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTuGLxjTbqA

what IS shown is shown in correct sequence

does any of this look familiar to you

I have #2 of the Pek kwar sets and the way I was taught flowed like Anthony Wongs form. I'm not sure what the other guy was doing? - Just re watched the 2nd guy... almost but like you say wierd.

ginosifu

[Mulong]

Thanks David, you do see the difference of flavor; it is obvious Wong Shifu version would possess southern flavor.

[Mulong]

David, you still have video of Wong Shifu doing it?

[David Jamieson]

here are chan sau jung's versions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocLpo...eature=related

the guy did them as one form, sorta weird

1st guy had better understanding in his body.

2nd guy looked like he was trying to remember what to do.

No biggy.

It looks like Bak Sil Lum! I mean, I know it's not, but dang! lol