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[Mulong]

Sadly, it seems most Northern styles mutated when they got to Hong Kong; they all lost the openness and liveliness flavor and became more upright and stiff.

[Brule]

1st guy had better understanding in his body....................

so much is said in this part of DJ's post.

[Mulong]

Jamieson, how so? I am seeing a Northern style being played by a Southern stylist without understanding the Northern flavor or worst basics.

[David Jamieson]

so much is said in this part of DJ's post.

Only if you're a martial artist a gymnast or a dancer though...

[lkfmdc]

Thanks David, you do see the difference of flavor; it is obvious Wong Shifu version would possess southern flavor.

2nd guy was just plain BAD at it... but his "version" was different also

YC Wong's teachings obviously have a hung influence, but still a good version none the less

[lkfmdc]

David, you still have video of Wong Shifu doing it?

no, one of the many things stolen over the years

[lkfmdc]

It looks like Bak Sil Lum! I mean, I know it's not, but dang! lol

it's all "bak"

and I am not really big on the "sil (should be SIU!) Lam" thing anyway

[David Jamieson]

Jamieson, how so? I am seeing a Northern style being played by a Southern stylist without understanding the Northern flavor or worst basics.

Here is a Bak Sil Lum set called plum flower:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA1q8nVU4ng

Here is the Pek Kwar sets again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTuGLxjTbqA

You don't see similarity in these?

fwiw, I am not 100% certain, but I am somewhat certain that our southern shaolin broadsword set comes from Pek Kwar.

[David Jamieson]

it's all "bak"

and I am not really big on the "sil (should be SIU!) Lam" thing anyway

I understand that, but still...

How do you feel about Shaolim?

[lkfmdc]

Of course they are all similar, and probably got even more so when it was all being taught in the same area by people who all know eachother

TCMA in an incestuous cluster fuck, always has been and continues to be

[lkfmdc]

I understand that, but still...

How do you feel about Shaolim?

siu lam/shaolin is tossed about for things that never were shaolin in the first place. And even the stuff that was IN shaolin mostly originated outside it anyway, apparently Gene's book "Shaolin Trips" talks about this, but I haven't gotten a copy yet

maybe he will LINK to the product now

[Mulong]

Don't worry; I'll search for them. I know I have first form, and one our dear buddies has the second form on video.

[lkfmdc]

Don't worry; I'll search for them. I know I have first form, and one our dear buddies has the second form on video.

ah......

ten characters

[Mulong]

LoL, indeed...

[David Jamieson]

Of course they are all similar, and probably got even more so when it was all being taught in the same area by people who all know eachother

TCMA in an incestuous cluster fuck, always has been and continues to be

tcma is not alone in it's incetuous clusterhumping.

boxing, mma, wrestling, karate, tkd etc etc.


mma is getting really ****genous now.

boxing has been for a while. It's the totally unorthodox boxers that seem to get something going on at the start, but it gets checked when the others bump hip.