Taoist Chen Fu Magic Cultivation for clearing the mind and energy

[CYMac]

I honestly can't believe how you are making a living with this stuff. You have got to at least recognize that all of this magic, sorcery, spells etc... is a bit far fetched for the general population. If this is something you believe in, fine go about your daily business as long as you're not harming people out there.

Not really. This is only because you are really unexposed to the subject and you are unaware of how many people there are that need help with this stuff only. You maybe lucky that you don't have any spiritual problems but those who have really need help that can really solve their problems. We provide 100% for sure working exorcism, at least it's way better than finding a person in the church to do it for you because they really don't work. I have seen many patient got well from our treatment. You will be surprised at how effective it is if you did tried. It's really amazing and the results are just unbelieveable.

Taoism magic is also VERY well known in China, Hong Kong, Singapore and many other places too. People strive to find a good master to help them to improve their life, to heal and cure illness and so on. It's not superstitious, it's because there are so many things that doctors just cannot help.

Recently a client of mine have a super painful leg pain and the doctors have prescribed him medicine (extra strong) for the pain killing, doesn't work, and it just got worst even he change meds. After my diagnoiss, it is a spiritual problem that he caught when he went to a place to eat with a friend. (got cursed) okay.. solved it in one night and the pain is gone. No meds needed!

It is hard to believe, but there are many occasions that illness can be just not so logical. Sometimes sickness and pains can caused by these spiritual problems too. If it is, meds don't work much. Then you need us around~

I am not joking with you, but this thing is serious duty.

*Btw, what is so surprising to see a person who open a temple for living anyway? There are many templs around the world, what's wrong with owning one and hosting one? um.. you are just bias or what?

[Brule]

I see temples everywhere, just not ones that practise exorcism and taoist magic, pretty uncommon if you ask me. Then again, since i'm not into that stuff i would not be looking for them.

You speak a lot about your students/clients/customers...whatever they are. Do you notice any similarities between all of them? i'm not talking about their problems, are they all from a similar culture or is it a mix of many?

[CYMac]

I see temples everywhere, just not ones that practise exorcism and taoist magic, pretty uncommon if you ask me. Then again, since i'm not into that stuff i would not be looking for them.

You speak a lot about your students/clients/customers...whatever they are. Do you notice any similarities between all of them? i'm not talking about their problems, are they all from a similar culture or is it a mix of many?

Yes it is not common to find a temple that have a skilled master there that do exorcism but there is a big demand for the service indeed. Just that not many are skilled to do it doesn't means it is not something people need. You may not see many surgent around and many doctors cannot perform surgery, doesn't means there is no need for surgery in the world.

My clients/students/patients, are all a mix of everything, let me list you a few that come to mind..

Chinese / 36yrs old / male / IT manager / good life and healthy

US / about 40 ? / male / real estate agent / good life with family and kids

US / professor in university / male / stressed life with family problems

Chinese / work with government of China for some "heat" service , gold fish shop owner / male and a female (couple) with kids, good life and wealthy

UK / about 18-22 / male / student / stressed and a messy background with bad chi gung master scewed his life up

Canadian / about 46 / female / hair stylist / work in basement but making a good living as well, with kids about 20 yrs old.

Canadian / about 38 / massage therapist / making good living with a son, not stressed but kind of screwed with some bad chi gung master again

Pakastain / a family with 2 kids / stressed with life and spiritual problems but with good passion in kungfu and martial arts, good minded

France / male about 28 / making a living just now / not bad but working with the family to get things sorted out..

Hong Kong / female about 40 yrs old / hollywood actress / spiritual problem made her insane..

Hong Kong / male / about 28-29? / director at some tv station and producer for film making industry (more toward China's side) / okay and wealthy life, good family life, but just got screwed by Tibetan magic recently...

China / female / about 30 / homeless in Canada now and lost her job, totally collapsed..

I am getting lost here.. but here are a few that I can name right out of my mouth.. there are of course more but you can see it's really quite random...

[Scott R. Brown]

I honestly can't believe how you are making a living with this stuff. You have got to at least recognize that all of this magic, sorcery, spells etc... is a bit far fetched for the general population. If this is something you believe in, fine go about your daily business as long as you're not harming people out there.

I think it is interesting that many Westerners, especially Americans and Canadians will respect and honor the traditions of the American Indian, but Poo Poo CyMac's traditions.

They are basically the same principles applied slightly differently according to the differences in cultures.

Having said that I was one of the first to give him a good razzing about his business, but once I understood he was serious about it, I easily recognized it was no different than American Indian traditions.

I know for a number of reasons, most importantly, I was an apprentice, for a short time, to an American Indian Medicine Man in my younger days.

[JamesC]

I think it is interesting that many Westerners, especially Americans and Canadians will respect and honor the traditions of the American Indian, but Poo Poo CyMac's traditions.

They are basically the same principles applied slightly differently according to the differences in cultures.

Having said that I was one of the first to give him a good razzing about his business, but once I understood he was serious about it, I easily recognized it was no different than American Indian traditions.

I know for a number of reasons, most importantly, I was an apprentice, for a short time, to an American Indian Medicine Man in my younger days.

I don't anyone is really that interested in poo-pooing his religion or belief systems. I think the biggest issue is how he's trying to make money doing it.

It all reeks of commercialism and fraud.

[Scott R. Brown]

I don't anyone is really that interested in poo-pooing his religion or belief systems. I think the biggest issue is how he's trying to make money doing it.

It all reeks of commercialism and fraud.

Selling is part of the Taoist Chinese Tradition! They have a long history of supporting themselves doing just what he is doing!

You may be imposing your/our culture's historical views of what religion should be onto his tradition!

[JamesC]

Selling is part of the Taoist Chinese Tradition! They have a long history of supporting themselves doing just what he is doing!

You may be imposing your/our culture's historical views of what religion should be onto his tradition!

Fair enough.

I'll try to be more open-minded.

[CYMac]

Taoism magic as a service/product for a living is not fraud or commercialism, it is how we can use this as a career to help people. Think about it, I rent a place to open the temple, I have a place to live, I have a family to sustain, what birng me the money to survive to help more people? If everything is free, okay, I will just suicide after bankruptcy and leave the world?

Be realistic my friend. I provide service just like a doctor, a surgent or an advirsor of anything, they need the patient or client to pay to sustain in business to be able to help more people. If doctors can work for free, surgent can work for free, who pay for their living?

As the theory of Taoism say, things have to balance both sides as well. I provide service or products as output, moeny have to be input to sustain the business too. That's reasonable and logical right? I bet you don't want to work for free too right? So do I?

I am actually charging a VERY SMALL AMOUNT for what I offer already. People in Hong Kong are charging a fortune for these stuff. Just flip the newspaper and magazines that come with the Chinese newspaper and you see it all the time. People (Taoist masters) told the actors to give them like millions or trillions to do a ceremony to "change their luck" or to "do revenge on their hudsband".. it's all on the news! Recently a female actress just got on the news saying she was doing "baby ghost magic" on the hudsband for revenge! Awhile ago, some Maoshan taoist were ripping a rich woman off and got all her money for doing fengshui and luck changing!

My business here is way more fair and realistic compare to those frauds! You wanna see what fraud is? Go to HK! You see it right on the street!

Not to forget, most fengshui masters (they called themselves "geometrist") here in Toronto, famous and common ones, charge about $300-$380 for a basic fengshui consultation, limited to small houses or condo unit. I charge only $300 for ANY SIZE housing... am I just too stupid to offer such generous price? maybe or maybe not. I am just opening the temple to offer help to those who need it.

If by chance you wanna try, welcome in!

[mawali]

I would say it has its value!
I heard a story about a young fellow who wanted to give back to the community. He dressed in a T shirt, jeans and took his cello to the local subway. He played extremely well but people were looking at him like a pariah, some people gave him money and he stayed at least half day. He picked up some change.

He just left it there! Sometime later he left and hopped onto his waiting limosine and went back to prepare for his evening recital as a conductor at the local conservatory.
People did not appreciate his performance, at least the many and the rest took various levels of pity on him for doing what he was doing. No harm no foul!

His presence was not appreciated but no matter!
If a world famous master gave a fengshui reading to a fool or a lazy man, do you think that either one would gain any merit (fame, fortune, etc) per the fengshui reading!

[CYMac]

I would say it has its value!
I heard a story about a young fellow who wanted to give back to the community. He dressed in a T shirt, jeans and took his cello to the local subway. He played extremely well but people were looking at him like a pariah, some people gave him money and he stayed at least half day. He picked up some change.

He just left it there! Sometime later he left and hopped onto his waiting limosine and went back to prepare for his evening recital as a conductor at the local conservatory.
People did not appreciate his performance, at least the many and the rest took various levels of pity on him for doing what he was doing. No harm no foul!

His presence was not appreciated but no matter!
If a world famous master gave a fengshui reading to a fool or a lazy man, do you think that either one would gain any merit (fame, fortune, etc) per the fengshui reading!

Doing fengshui reading will not improve your fame, fortune, etc,.. fengshui is to help you see the energy flow pattern of the house or place so that you can rearrange your place to have better energy flow. If you don't get moving yourself to do the change, nothing can happen too~

[taai gihk yahn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_y58MdC3s

This may fit this section of the forum...

This is how we cultivate the chen fu magic in Taoism Tin Yat Lineage to cleanse our mind, energy and internals as well. Doing the magic cultivation can make you calm, clear your mind from cloudiness, fogginess, and also help you to think right. For those who are feeling frustration, hot headed and always get on their nerves so quick, you can do this magic to resolve the problem as well. The magic here is very easy but it require you to have the altar and also opened the chen fu as a magical tool before you do it. All these steps are availible at my blog for free though. Just ask me if you need or want to start.

The FU here (symbol) is what you use in the video's teaching.

really? with all due respect, that's pretty rudimentary, even a bit crude;

here is one of my teacher's by contrast:

[CYMac]

really? with all due respect, that's pretty rudimentary, even a bit crude;

here is one of my teacher's by contrast:

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confused..?

[taai gihk yahn]

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confused..?

you mean u don't recognize the symbol?

well, not surprising, considering that it's real alchemical practice, not ur strip-mall jingoist taoism

[CYMac]

you mean u don't recognize the symbol?

well, not surprising, considering that it's real alchemical practice, not ur strip-mall jingoist taoism

I am just confused what you are trying to say here.

"real alchemical practice"? LOL! I want to laugh!

[taai gihk yahn]

I am just confused what you are trying to say here.

that is because your mind is clouded and your perception is weak, so when u see a true Taoist manifestation of the kind my teacher has produced, you cannot amalgamate it

"real alchemical practice"? LOL! I want to laugh!

glad I could provide you some amusement, it seems only fitting for all the risible faire with which you have provided us!