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    Qixing lyrics

    These are excerpted from Shaolin Gong Fu – A Course in Traditional Forms. I love their translations because they are so funky. They call qixing The Plough Form, which could be a reference to the big dipper stance work. In Chinese, it's 七星拳 (qixingquan). This comes from V. 3 p. 11:
    The Plough Form
    1. Ready Position
    2. Starting Movement
    3. Small Position With A Plough Stance
    4. Crisscross Snapkick
    5. Small Position With a Plough Stance
    6. Defending The Left Ear While Clapping The Right Foot
    7. Rushing A Fist In A Forward Lunge
    8. Enpi The Left Elbow In a Horse Stance
    9. Striking Both Hands While Stamping a Foot
    10. Striking the Crotch
    11. Enpi and Rebounding
    12. Crisscross Snapkick
    13. Small Position With A Plough Stance
    14. Clapping The Right Foot
    15. Pushing A Claw By Turning Back
    16. Walking like a ****
    17. Walking like a ****
    18. Walking like a ****
    19. Small Position With A Plough Stance
    20. Crisscross Snapkick
    21. Small Position With A Plough Stance
    22. Rushing A Fist In A Forward Lunge
    23. Rushing A Fist In A Forward Lunge
    24. Rushing A Fist In A Forward Lunge
    25. Small Position With A Plough Stance
    26. Crisscross Snapkick
    27. Small Position With A Plough Stance
    28. Enpi The Left Elbow In a Horse Stance
    29. Right Enpi
    30. Outside Crescent
    31. Rushing A Fist In A Forward Lunge
    32. Enpi The Left Elbow In a Horse Stance
    33. Striking Both Hands While Stamping a Foot
    34. Striking the Crotch
    35. Enpi and Rebounding
    36. Crisscross Snapkick
    37. Small Position With A Plough Stance
    38. Clapping the Foot While Jumping Up
    40. Rushing Both Fists to Both Sides In A Forward Lunge
    41. Small Position With A Plough Stance
    42. Rushing the Left Fist In A Forward Lunge
    43. Rushing the Right Fist In A Forward Lunge
    44. Defending the Crotch in a Horse Stance
    45. The Finish

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    16. Walking like a ****
    17. Walking like a ****
    18. Walking like a ****
    lol, thats great!

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    10. Striking the Crotch
    34. Striking the Crotch
    44. Defending the Crotch in a Horse Stance
    Gene, Gene, Gene....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    The Plough Form
    1. Ready Position
    2. Starting Movement
    3. Small Position With A Plough Stance
    4. Crisscross Snapkick
    5. Small Position With a Plough Stance
    6. Defending The Left Ear While Clapping The Right Foot
    7. Rushing A Fist In A Forward Lunge
    8. Enpi The Left Elbow In a Horse Stance
    i see they do the version with the snapkick and slapkick at the very beginning....

    btw, what is "enpi"? isnt that japanese for their elbow strikes? every "enpi" here has to do with an elbow.

    interesting choice for translation.

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    Now you see why I love the Taguo translations...

    Enpi, or more properly empi, comes from the Japanese term for elbow strike. Empi (猿臂 Mandarin yuánbì) means 'ape elbow'.
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    The 7 moves of Shaolin 7 Star

    In our 2005 Shaolin Special (May June issue), we published 7 Star Fist: Shaolin Qixing Quan Revealed By Shi Xing Ying with Grace Gee, Bujin Guo, and Chen Xinghua. It described the seven significant moves from this form. I'm copying them here. Note that the issue has the Chinese characters too, but I'm not going to transfer those (too much work right now).
    1. Qixing Bu Shi (Seven Star Foot Pattern)
    2. Soushou Bingbu Shi (Locking Hand, Feet Together Pattern)
    3. Jixing Bu Shi (Rooster Form Foot Pattern)
    4. Sanzhou Tiaoshui Shi (Single Elbow Carries Water Pattern)
    5. Tixi Zuandi Shi (Lift Knee, Screw into Ground Pattern)
    6. Shuanglong Chudong Shi (Twin Dragons Come out of the Cave Pattern)
    7. Dangshan Boshui Shi (Seal the Mountain, Splash Water Pattern)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    Note that the issue has the Chinese characters too, but I'm not going to transfer those (too much work right now).
    1. Qixing Bu Shi (Seven Star Foot Pattern)
    2. Soushou Bingbu Shi (Locking Hand, Feet Together Pattern)
    3. Jixing Bu Shi (Rooster Form Foot Pattern)
    4. Sanzhou Tiaoshui Shi (Single Elbow Carries Water Pattern)
    5. Tixi Zuandi Shi (Lift Knee, Screw into Ground Pattern)
    6. Shuanglong Chudong Shi (Twin Dragons Come out of the Cave Pattern)
    7. Dangshan Boshui Shi (Seal the Mountain, Splash Water Pattern)
    awesome names! thanks..

    i guess the characters and pinyin are like this, based on what you provide. maybe double check me;

    1. 七星步式 (qīxīngbù shì)
    2. 锁手并步式 (suǒshǒu bìngbù shì)
    3. 鸡形步式 (jīxíngbù shì)
    4. 单肘挑水式 (dānzhǒu tiāoshuǐ shì)
    5. 提膝钻地式 (tíxī zuāndì shì)
    6. 双龙出洞式 (shuānglóng chūdòng shì)
    7. 挡山泼水式 (dǎngshān shuǐ shì)

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    Found out more about the 7 Star set;

    It is from when Ji Long Feng visited Shaolin, it is a rooster fighting set. it is defense against kicks.
    It either was inspiration for Ji Long Feng or came from his instruction there to the monks. It was originally called Qin Xi Ba, which shows it has a relationship to the Xin Yi Ba that Shaolin got from Ji Long Feng. So, the 7 Star set is related to the Rooster set practiced by Henan Xinyi Quan and Shanxi Xingyi Quan.

    1. 七星拳 "qixingquan" (eng.: seven star boxing)
    2. 长护心意门拳 "changhuxinyimenquan" (eng.: constant protection of the mind-gate boxing)

    they are called "mother and son" sets, just as xiaohongquan and its matching dahongquan set.

    changhuxinyimen is said to have been created by song dynasty monk huiwei, then altered in the yuan dynasty by jinnaluo, and in the ming dynasty by juexun, tongxiang and other warrior monks.

    the qixing set is laid out upon the formation of the big dipper rather than the usual straight line. hence the name "seven star".

    qixing and changhuxinyimen share the "rooster" steps along with the hand formation and some similar applications.

    Qixing may have Taoist origin, since the Qixing is a Taoist concept.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=w2awOCDRtrc
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=2RuX7jh40hc
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=OVTIWYlncC8

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    That was spot on, gentlemen

    Excellent posts, LFJ & Sal. It's reaffirming to see some solid stuff here.

    It's worthy of note that these lyrics map on to the Taguo lyrics but are slightly different in Chinese as well as English. For example Seven Star Foot Pattern (七星步式) is Small Position With A Plough Stance (七星小架).

    Anyone want to venture a connection between Qixing and Qixing Tanglong? The Taguo Qixing Tanglong is in my practice regimen lately. I've been working a lot of the Taguo-influenced renditions recently.
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    qi xing quan

    anyone practice this form? how does it help your body,fighting abilities,any interesting insite on this form.

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    Hsing Yi is more related to Wu Dang than Shaolin
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    don't get it

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    Further to above;

    Qixing has 2 major variations, one is the current popular one, the other follows roughly the same sequence but is quite different. It is centred around the technique 'JiXingBu' or the 'Rooster step'.

    The uncommon variation has the technique JiXingBu repeated 9 times. The popular variation does not fully contain it at all, instead it breaks it into components and puts it throughout the form.

    The technique JiXingBu doesn't have one specific application, rather it is a technique designed to be used in many ways as a method of entering the opponents space. It employs the 'WuHuaBaShou' circling hand technique and simultaneous circling leg technique.

    Both variations use very small framed stances. The purpose of the form is to teach you how to keep yourself guarded and evasive while still moving forwards. Keeping yourself moving in the small frame so that you are ready to explode into the large frame when the time is right.

    It is said of the form that the feet move like that of a rooster, the body twists like a dragons body and the head turns like a monkeys.

    The name 'QiXingQuan' and 'JiXingQuan' are very similar sounding in Chinese. This is just conjecture but considering the form is centred around the rooster step I sometimes think It may have originally been 'Rooster fist' and then changed to '7- star' because it sounds better.

    QiXing Quan also has a very rare ErLu (second road). It is also kept in the small frame and makes use of a similar hand position.

    In total I have seen 5 distinct forms called QiXing Quan in SongShan. 3 of them are clearly related variations on the same set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokhopkuen View Post
    Hsing Yi is more related to Wu Dang than Shaolin
    Although this may be true today....

    The Henan XinYi styles (not xinG yi) are very closely related to Shaolin and sometimes indistinguishable. XinYi is the precurser of XingYi and so there is a relation.

    Looking at modern WuDang forms they definately contain a lot of modern XinG Yi technique, but not necessarily that of the older XinYi which song shan forms contain in abundance. I'm not sure from what era the current set of Wudang forms evolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenDaHai View Post
    Further to above;

    Qixing has 2 major variations, one is the current popular one, the other follows roughly the same sequence but is quite different. It is centred around the technique 'JiXingBu' or the 'Rooster step'.

    The uncommon variation has the technique JiXingBu repeated 9 times. The popular variation does not fully contain it at all, instead it breaks it into components and puts it throughout the form.

    The technique JiXingBu doesn't have one specific application, rather it is a technique designed to be used in many ways as a method of entering the opponents space. It employs the 'WuHuaBaShou' circling hand technique and simultaneous circling leg technique.

    Both variations use very small framed stances. The purpose of the form is to teach you how to keep yourself guarded and evasive while still moving forwards. Keeping yourself moving in the small frame so that you are ready to explode into the large frame when the time is right.

    It is said of the form that the feet move like that of a rooster, the body twists like a dragons body and the head turns like a monkeys.

    The name 'QiXingQuan' and 'JiXingQuan' are very similar sounding in Chinese. This is just conjecture but considering the form is centred around the rooster step I sometimes think It may have originally been 'Rooster fist' and then changed to '7- star' because it sounds better.

    QiXing Quan also has a very rare ErLu (second road). It is also kept in the small frame and makes use of a similar hand position.

    In total I have seen 5 distinct forms called QiXing Quan in SongShan. 3 of them are clearly related variations on the same set.
    very informative,thanks for the info

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