Building strength the TCMA way

[dirtyrat]

one TCMA system had us using light weights held in the hands with arms extended (either out to the sides or out in front; and even above) for a period of time while holding a horse stance as well. i suppose it's a form of shoulder isometrics. it makes you feel faster and your shoulder endurance improves so that you can throw more strikes.

[YouKnowWho]

many people only do the "bodybuilding" type of ST because that is the only one they know.

"TCMA strength training" does not equal to "modern weight lifting".

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7958/canebundle.jpg

There are "general" strength that can be built up by modern weight lifting. There are "special" strength than can only be built up by TCMA strength training.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/8...eheadsweep.jpg

[sanjuro_ronin]

TCMA strength training does not equal to modern weight lifting.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7958/canebundle.jpg

You are thinking "sport specific" training and that's fine.
Lets go with that then:
What are you doing in that picture John?

[YouKnowWho]

What are you doing in that picture John?

Push opponent's head down and hook his leg up.

It's very difficult to find a "modern weight lifting" training that can accomplish this goal - push and pull at the same time.

[sanjuro_ronin]

And how does a bundle of bamboo resolves the issue?

[Frost]

You are thinking "sport specific" training and that's fine.
Lets go with that then:
What are you doing in that picture John?

i have this strange feeling....like we have been here before......many times

[sanjuro_ronin]

i have this strange feeling....like we have been here before......many times

Not from John that I recall.
But I know where he is going with this and in some ways I agree, certain old school methods seem ideal for certain old school results.

[YouKnowWho]

And how does a bundle of bamboo resolves the issue?

The harder that you push, the harder that the cane bundle will resist. You then "borrow" the resistence and reverse your force direction. This way you can train "borrow force" when you don't have training partner.

[Frost]

Not from John that I recall.
But I know where he is going with this and in some ways I agree, certain old school methods seem ideal for certain old school results.

ive had the whole specific v general discussion with him before, for me the specific is pointless without the groundwork built by the general work.....and for me general is best build by free weights and specific by actual sports practise

[YouKnowWho]

certain old school methods seem ideal for certain old school results.

Modern still cannot replace tradition.

and specific by actual sports practise

We don't always have training partner 24/7.

[sanjuro_ronin]

The harder that you push, the harder that the cane bundle will resist. You then "borrow" the resistence and reverse your force direction. This way you can train "borrow force" when you don't have training partner.

And "Bands" can't solve that problem?

[YouKnowWho]

And "Bands" can't solve that problem?

If you are talking about rubberband, it will give you resistence when you pull, but it won't give you resistence when your push. In the modern training, you may be able to develop strong pulling or strong pushing. It doesn't mean that you can apply both at the same time.

ive had the whole specific v general discussion with him before,

When similiar subject starts, similiar posts will be included. This thread is special for "TCMA way". As a TCMA believer, it's hard not for me to take this opportunity to indicate that:

"modern is not always better than tradition".

[sanjuro_ronin]

If you are talking about rubberband, it will give you resistence when you pull, but it won't give you resistence when your push.


When similiar subject starts, similiar posts will be included. This thread is special for "TCMA way". As a TCMA believer, it's hard not for me to take this opportunity to indicate that:

"modern does not always better than tradition".

Re" bands, they were an example and my point was have you tried to design a training tool with modern materials?

No, modern doesn't always = better, but lets not forget that there is nothing modern about ST, the only difference now is the materials we use and our knowledge of WHY the body works this way.

[YouKnowWho]

have you tried to design a training tool with modern materials?

I assume something like this will work too.

http://www.robbinssports.com/century...my-p-6795.html

[David Jamieson]

I use...barbells, dumbbells, kettlebells, body weight and rubberbands for resitance training.

I also use isometric and isotonic (dynamic tension) sets for some focused refined resistance.

stone locks etc are ok, but we don't have to use 300 year old designs to get the effect of 50 cent to a dollar a pound iron dumbells or x2 the cost for kettlebells.

I also use rings for set training, heavy weapons such as Kwan do with Iron pole instead of wood, heavyweight training blades on broadsword and on wu dip do.

Anyway, pretty typical resistance training for strength except for the rings, the dynamic tension sets and the heavy weapons, the rest is normal lifting.