Bawang Quan in Cailifo/Choy Lee Fut?

[Marcelo-RJ]

I have some Choy Lee Fut training from Northern Shaolin GM Chan Kwok Wai's disciple, the late Sifu Marcello Teixeira, here in Rio. That hapenned as far back as 1990, and only for a few months.

Eventually I have started learning a very long form called "Bawan Quan" ( 霸王拳 - do not know the Cantonese pronounciation, sorry!), which is the first one taught within GM Chan Kwok Wai's school.

I have never heard of, nor seen, such a form, except for the quotation in http://www.ccak.org/en/articles/cailifo-pai, so I ask the brothers here whether this form is anyhow known outside of the lineage of GM Chan, who learned Hung Sing from Yan You Chin and Buk Sing from Ying Sheung Mo (see chart on the bottom of http://www.sinobrasileira.org/index....subid=11&ln=pt ).

Thanks a lot, in advance, for your attention,

Marcelo

[hskwarrior]

I've never heard of this form as its not in Fut San Hung Sing Kwoons material. perhaps its a chan fam form or even Chan Kwok Wai created it.

all i've found so far is shaw brother movies and cartoons.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XslNHCfTBTc

[Faruq]

So then Bawang apparently means despot king, not purple newborn calf! What cruel deception on the part of Shifu Bawang!

[hskwarrior]

Bawang the Overseer................of what is another issue all by itself.

[Marcelo-RJ]

Thank you, Sifu Frank, for the informantion regarding the Futsan Hung Sing.
I have asked Sifu Wong Yen Zem from Xing Hui, and he told me he has never heard about that form either.
So, the form (a) was created by Chan Kwok Wai; or (b) was created by one of Chan Kwok Wai's teachers (Yan You Chin and Ying Sheung Mo) and subsequently taught to CKW.
I have tried to communicate with Master CKW but his email is not working. I'll let you know if I happen to find out something.

Marcelo

[hskwarrior]

cool. good luck with that bro

[Marcelo-RJ]

Ok, I have just heard from the representative of CKW in a Southern state of my Country that Chan Kwok Wai has learnt that form from Zhen Yaochao (Yan You Chin), who's in this picture (left) with his father Zhen Yanchu (right): http://www.shaolindonorte.com.br/ima...yanchu_clf.jpg
Any info on those gentlemen?

M.

[Marcelo-RJ]

Chan Kwok Wai's Hung Sing Lineage:

Attachment 6608

[Marcelo-RJ]

And these are the forms that are taught by Chan Kwok Wai:

Attachment 6609

Any info will be welcome!

[Lucas]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072290/

[CLFNole]

My kung fu brother who was a student of Chan Kwok Wai many years ago mentioned that form before and said he was told it was from buk sing. If i am not mistaken it has the double single poon kiu block followed by a sow choy, which can be seen in buk sing sets. Not sure if it is unique to buk sing or not though.

Peace

[CLFNole]

My kung fu brother who was a student of Chan Kwok Wai many years ago mentioned that form before and said he was told it was from buk sing. If i am not mistaken it has the double single poon kiu block followed by a sow choy, which can be seen in buk sing sets. Not sure if it is unique to buk sing or not though.

Peace

[Eric Olson]

Funny to see the names of the forms written in Mandarin:

Shizi Kouda Quan= Saap Ji Kau Da Kyuhn

EO

[Marcelo-RJ]

Thank you, CLF Nole, for the information above.
Now I'm truly confused (not your intention, I know), for the teacher in the South of Brazil told me it was a Hung Sing form that CKW learned from Yan You Chin.
Anyway, I used to think there were only three forms in Buk Sing CLF.
Maybe I'll film a part of the form and send it to youtube next weekend.

M.

[hskwarrior]

Anyway, I used to think there were only three forms in Buk Sing CLF.
Maybe I'll film a part of the form and send it to youtube next weekend.

For the gung fu that was passed down by Jeung Yim buk sing has our Sup Ji, Ping Kuen and Kau da.

the Mui Fah Form is also not from Jeung Yim.