Hi sunwukon,

In that case, Yim You-Chin would be the same as Zhen Yao-Chao 甄耀超 mentioned by Marcelo in post #8

From the same thread, it would seem to give an impression that Sifu CKW's lineage came down through Yan Yao-Ting 顏耀庭.

Yan Yao-Ting 顏耀庭 > Zhen Yan-Chu 甄炎初 > Zhen Yao-Chao 甄耀超 > CKW, that would mean it leads to Chan Koon-Pak, because Yan Yao-Ting was one of his students.

As far as I know, Chan Koon-Pak and Yan Yao-Ting's line don't have this Ba-Wong-Kuen form and if Sifu CKW didn't make it up, then it would be by one of the two Zhen Sifu mentioned.

XJ