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    Mook Yan Jong - is it useless ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    Is the Wooden Man a waste of space?

    Does it actual serve a purpose?

    Does the wooden man train you how to flow, utilize and develop power, use your structure to generate power, use your steps correctly to generate power and also condition your limbs?


    Are is the Wooden man only for solo training when you have no real partners to train with.

    Should the Wooden Man be apart of Wing Chun if so why?
    The wooden dummy is the most valuable piece of equipment a WC practitioner can ever use . It corrects your WC blocking and striking techniques as well as the different types of kicks used in WC . It also makes you think logically if you ' re either doing the techniques the right way or wrong way . But the dummy corrects your Wc techniques . If your arms and hands are well conditioned there is a possibility that you can break the wooden dummy ' s arm . But it ' ll be good if you can break the opponents arm , instead of the dummys' arm . Then that way you don ' t need to spend another 100 or 150.00 to replace the dummy ' arm that you broke . Even if the the wooden dummy is rooted to the ground with wooden parts , you can test out you bodys' strength , by trying to push the wooden dummy , forward .

    In southern style of kung fu , they talk about horse stance training or moving around using your stances . In WC , we use the crane stance and moving around using WC footwork . Southern style of kung fu , the power comes from the ground goes into your foot and circulates throughout your entire body . So in WC , as long as you ' re training on the dummy or practicing chi sao , but moving around in your WC stances or just standing in the WC stance , you can condition your body . Because , in styles like Hung Gar , Choy li fut , these 2 styles also train on their own wooden dummy , as well as practicing on their horse stance and footwork of their styles and get stronger . And the WC Sil Lum Tao form is our internal form . You can also do taiji and still get the same benefits . Sifu Hawkins Cheung does taiji and WC and also trains on the wooden dummy too .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    Is the Wooden Man a waste of space?

    Does it actual serve a purpose?

    Does the wooden man train you how to flow, utilize and develop power, use your structure to generate power, use your steps correctly to generate power and also condition your limbs?


    Are is the Wooden man only for solo training when you have no real partners to train with.

    Should the Wooden Man be apart of Wing Chun if so why?
    I think the better question is: is the MYJ indispensable? Can one become proficient in VT without MYJ practice? I think the answer is one can become a good VT practitioner without a MYJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trubblman View Post
    I think the better question is: is the MYJ indispensable? Can one become proficient in VT without MYJ practice? I think the answer is one can become a good VT practitioner without a MYJ.
    All depends on whether you want to be good or very good.

    GH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sihing73 View Post
    Hello,

    The Dummy helps to refine the angles of your technique. IMHO, the way the dummy reacts to the force projected into it can help to determine if the techniq is applied at the proper angle. An example is the Bong Sau; when applied the arm should go up and the opposite corner and the body of the dummy should turn slightly. This will indicate the proper angle and even degree of force.

    Also when moving around the dummy applying techniques your stance is worked and you can use the reactive force from the dummy to insure your stance is also correct.

    My opinion anyhow.
    Very well put. The dummy is another tool in your arsenal to further refine your technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaolinhouse View Post
    Very well put. The dummy is another tool in your arsenal to further refine your technique.
    How does refining your technique to do forms or chi sau help you become a better fighter?
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    How does refining your technique to do forms or chi sau help you become a better fighter?
    The myj refines our movement and synchronicity in short bursts
    of timing, that is relative to developing ourselves as fighters, not
    Chi sao gamers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    The myj refines our movement and synchronicity in short bursts
    of timing, that is relative to developing ourselves as fighters, not
    Chi sao gamers.
    Thank you...your the first! to mention the difference between fighting and chi sao gamers...very interesting!
    Last edited by Yoshiyahu; 10-17-2011 at 03:27 PM.
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    Thank you...your the first!
    watch the contained, explosive actions.....

    1 pak punch
    1 jut punch
    1 lap punch
    1 punch alone to finish

    4 punches 3 in sequence with hands and 1 to finish after releasing ....

    CLIP OF STRIKING
    Last edited by k gledhill; 10-17-2011 at 03:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    Thank you...your the first! to mention the difference between fighting and chi sao gamers...very interesting!
    There is a lot we do in chi-sao we dont do in actual fighting. We adopt a mutual facing starting point from which to move off the center of a clock face, relative to lines of force and movement , angling, etc......We adopt roles for each other so we can help develop ideas of attacking and countering attacks.

    In chi-sao the fight should be with your elbows and hips not to collapse backwards, not a fight to beat up the guy helping your elbows and hips achieve their goal

    Does a boxer beat up the guy holding the pads for his combinations ? no
    Does a boxer knock out the guy coaching him with footwork ? no
    Do you bite a heavy bag in a clinch with it no why ? because you're training with partners , pieces of equipment enhancing your ability to fight...a sparring partner is not a guy you're out to ko with bombs....you're working ideas, hes throwing stuff for your benefit to react to and counter....seeing a dropped hand as you deliver a strike, a telegraphic shoulder...an off balance counter.
    So WHY in chi-sao does everyone try to beat the guy they are training with ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post

    In chi-sao the fight should be with your elbows and hips not to collapse backwards, not a fight to beat up the guy helping your elbows and hips achieve their goal
    Well said! Chi Sau for developing the correct behaviour....not for fighting wars!

    GH

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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    watch the contained, explosive actions.....

    1 pak punch
    1 jut punch
    1 lap punch
    1 punch alone to finish

    4 punches 3 in sequence with hands and 1 to finish after releasing ....

    CLIP OF STRIKING
    Good Points

    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    There is a lot we do in chi-sao we dont do in actual fighting. We adopt a mutual facing starting point from which to move off the center of a clock face, relative to lines of force and movement , angling, etc......We adopt roles for each other so we can help develop ideas of attacking and countering attacks.

    In chi-sao the fight should be with your elbows and hips not to collapse backwards, not a fight to beat up the guy helping your elbows and hips achieve their goal

    Does a boxer beat up the guy holding the pads for his combinations ? no
    Does a boxer knock out the guy coaching him with footwork ? no
    Do you bite a heavy bag in a clinch with it no why ? because you're training with partners , pieces of equipment enhancing your ability to fight...a sparring partner is not a guy you're out to ko with bombs....you're working ideas, hes throwing stuff for your benefit to react to and counter....seeing a dropped hand as you deliver a strike, a telegraphic shoulder...an off balance counter.
    So WHY in chi-sao does everyone try to beat the guy they are training with ?


    So true...In real fighting they want do chi sau...When its time to do chi sau they want to do real fighting! No wonder they get they hats handed to them...thinking Chi Sau is really how a fight is gonna happen!
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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