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    Over Hook (Cracking)

    I just find this beautiful short clip. This throw not only takes your opponent down. It also put you in dominate position. I'm glad to see that more throws are used in cage fight.



    Sometime when you talk about "head lock", people will say that the head lock is very risky because you will give your opponent a chance to have one of his arm to wrap around your waist. What people may not realize that is your opponent's waist holding will give you a chance to apply "over hook (crack)" on his arm. The "over hook (crack)" is a door open move which can lead you into many throws (depend on how your opponent will response to your "over hook (crack)". The head lock and over hook are twin brothers. One can be changed into another smoothly.

    The harder that your opponent tries to hold on your waist, the easiest it will be for you to use your over hook. The contact point is given to you for free. If you use both hands (one hand hold on his arm and one hand hook on his arm), it will be very difficult for your opponent to get away.

    What's your opinion on this move?
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    Modified wizzer. Ive used this many times
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.

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    ashi garuma

    Sorta a combo ****zer/ashi garuma :' )

    udoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/ashiguruma.htm

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    Beautiful throw!!!!!

    I prefer the under hook but you have to make due sometimes with what's there. I just say that because I don't think having the over hook is an advantage, just that the thrower recognized the position first.

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    Greetings,

    I enjoyed the timing of the technique. The guy did not see it coming nor did he seem to have a clue about what to do about it. His response to the entire applicaton of that technique was a humongous "WTF??!!??!!".

    mickey

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    gonna have to try that tomorrow night Never thought of using a wh!zzer to throw a harai goshi.

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    in Ba gua zhang

    it is called lying bull leg

    or wo niu jiao.

    cool.


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    great execution, loved the single arm. It IS great to see this in MMA. Some people are training correctly
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    I would say most of those guys are training intelligently and at a high level... just that everyone has their areas of expertise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Pina View Post
    I prefer the under hook...
    I like both over hook and under hook. The over hook is the twin brother of the head lock. The under hook is the twin brother of the waist surrounding (bear hug).

    For a

    - shorter person, the under hook has advantage to "lift" your taller opponent.
    - taller person, the over hook has advantage to "crack" your shorter opponent.

    Both skills have it's proper place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Pina View Post
    I would say most of those guys are training intelligently and at a high level... just that everyone has their areas of expertise.
    completely agree. i can unashamedly admit that i would definately NOT want to fight a top of the line Pro UFC fighter in the street or in the cage. I dont by any means consider myself weak or a pansy...but man..those guys are on a whole different level than most people...the conditioning alone..sorry i cant fight for 25 minutes with that level of intensity. those title fights can be BRUTAL!!! if any of you guys think you can do that, then try out for ultimate fighter and prove it!!! im sure they would love a kungfu guy that knows his game. its all about the pros. when i think mma those are the guys i think of, they are the bar, and if you want to be an elite fighter, you will be training to reach that bar...
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    I prefer under over myself, but tend to gravitate towards double underhooks for dumping.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.

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    That was. A display of excellent timing, thank you.
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