Ray is dumb the average kung fu student is like 5 foot 8 less than 175 pounds..even if they win they are only elite lightweights lol Mike Tyson would punch em out so great they are elite midgets wow lol who cares just be happy you can spar most people dont have the time. Martial arts always lived with the rich and the talented..besides a poor person is going to attack with weapons not a jab and takedown. Reflexes and agility is all we can rely on and its all gone if you make it to 85 anyway you better have a firearm permit and hope dementia doesnt **** up your eyesight.