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    Official Clarification Statement from GM Kenneth Lin Xiang Fuk

    Official Clarification Statement in response to Sergio’s Lies and Marketing Propaganda.
    After long consideration, cultivation, many endless discussions with HKB Grandmaster elders in*Indonesia, especially GM The Kang Hay, considering many people who have been cheated by Sergio as his victim as well as the future of our kungfu family, we have decided today to release and expose the truth along with some evidence. We made this decision based on the following reasons:
    1.******We have discovered some information from several leaders that used to be in his organization before they left him. They had to pay either 1250 Euro per hour [version 1] or per day [version 2] with a minimum of 3 days to learn our Black Flag Wing Chun that he stole from us. The most ridiculous part is that this is happening after he started attacking us on the internet. We understand his organization is already falling apart as this year 2011 he lost every school in*Germany*except one and all of his schools in*Italy*except 4-6 schools out of 25, more or less. We don’t want more innocent people to become* victim of his fraudulent money hunger.* We also understand this was one of the reasons they left him.
    2.******All the lies that he made regarding 18 lohan hand.
    3.******His manipulation of our history.
    4.******His manipulation of one of our teachers, GM Tio Tek Kwie by putting words in his mouth.

    The clarification and truth, exposing his lies:

    1. Sergio’s Lie # 1.

    He stated in his mass slander email:

    “During our training together in Kowloon park* we met an original student of Kwee King Yang we have spend lots of time with him and through that know now all the history and facts”

    Fact: After he discovered that he was about to be kicked out from our Shaolin HKB Eng Chun Pai Family, he went to Indonesia trying to recruit and manipulate GM Tio in Probolinggo to support his marketing propaganda. He knew exactly where to turn because he was aware there was an internal issue between GM Tio and the rest of the elders and was trying to take advantage of it.

    We were already aware of the first day he went to Indonesia as GM Tio stopped by at Depot Sari (GM The Kang Hay’s restaurant) before he went to the airport to pick him up. GM The Kang Hay asked GM Tio Tek Kwie’s driver and found out about Sergio coming. We were all prepared and anticipated his movement thanks to GM The Kang Hay.

    Here is a copy of the original email that was sent:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/email.pdf
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    Conclusion: His so called ‘student of kwee king yang in Kowloon’ park is completely a big lie and he tried to hide his betrayal.
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    2. Sergio’s Lie # 2.
    He made a statement that HKB/Black Flag is not Wing Chun, instead it was 18 lohan hands as he claimed to be stated by GM Tio Tek Kwie.
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    Fact: GM Tio Tek Kwie himself already stated 2 years before Sergio even began his HKB training with us that this is Black Flag Wing Chun in many video interviews and even in the official interview by National Newspaper Jawa Pos by Muhamad Fahmi(Jawa Pos Newspaper’s Reporter) that took place in GM Tio Tek Kwie’s house on Saturday, Janurary 17, 2009. Sifu Lin was not even aware of this article and contacted the reporter, Muhamad Fahmi, who stated that he was actually contacted by GM Tio Tek Kwie’s own daughter Zhang Li Lian to interview her father and to promote his name. On top of that, during several seminars/workshop that GM Tio did, GM Tio himself released a seminar certificate that clearly stated he is a grandmaster of Hokkian Hek Ki Boen Eng Chun Pai (Black Flag Wing Chun).
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    ** Proof of Newspaper (Look at paragraph 13):
    a.******************* PDF Version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/Jawapos-full.pdf
    b.******************* Html archive version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/jawapos.htm
    c.******************** Our Translation version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/newspaper.pdf
    d.******************* Google Translation version: http://translate.google.com/translat...%2Fjawapos.htm
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    ** Proof of Video Interview with GM Tio Tek Kwie:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uhaq35jN00
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    ** Proof of Certificate:
    a.*********** From GM Tio Tek Kwie Seminar on March 28, 2010

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/220...4_825646_o.jpg
    b.*********** From GM Tio Tek Kwie Seminar on November 7, 2008

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/219..._1369695_o.jpg
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    Note:
    1.*********** This is just an example of the certificate given to one of the attendees by GM Tio Tek Kwie. There are also many more HKB Eng Chun Pai certificates GM Tio Tek Kwie issued, not to mention all the attendees can also testify to this.
    2.*********** The newspaper and certificate can also be found at this link:

    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...0387185&type=1
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    3. Sergio’s Lie # 3.
    He stated that GM Tio Tek Kwie is one of the closest disciples of Kwee King Yang.
    Here is his original statement:

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/sergio%20lie.PNG
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    Fact: This is a pure LIE and manipulation that he did to salvage his collapsing organization by fabricating a story of GM Tio Tek Kwie as one of the closest students of Kwee King Yang. The truth is GM Tio Tek Kwie is not even a direct student of Kwee King Yang.

    GM Tio Tek Kwie’s real sifu is GM The Sik Yen, who is a student of GM Ban Bi Sun. GM Ban Bi Sun is a direct student of Kwee King Yang. So if counting from Cia Fun Tjiao, the last chief instructor of Black Flag, a direct Student of Sifu Lin would be a 5th Generation Black Flag disciple. A direct student of Sergio would be 7th Generation Black Flag student. He tried to cover this up as it’s not good for his business. Where is his moral etiquette?
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    Proof:
    a.*********** Old Picture of GM Tio Tek Kwie(Standing up on right) along with his Suheng[Sihing] Tik Siu[Standing next to GM Tio] with his direct sifu, GM The Sik Yen (Sitting next to GM Kwee King Yang). Both Tik Siu and GM Tio are student of GM The Sik Yen.

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/tekkwiewithsikyen.jpg
    Or
    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...type=3&theater
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    b.*********** Video explanation by the real successor of Kwee King Yang, GM The Kang Hay. Translated by GM Tio Tek Kwie’s own Nephew; Royce M.

    During this video, GM The Kang Hay no longer wanted to cover up for all of those lies from Sergio’s side in regards to GM Tio Tek Kwie’s Lineage Generation

    Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH8wFX3TSRQ

    Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu5XwDlT9ns

    We decided not to release part 1 and 2 yet, which is even MORE POWERFUL than part 3 & 4.
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    4. Sergio Lie # 4;
    He stated that Sifu Lin created Siauw Lim Dou(Siu Lian Tao), Tim Kiao(Chum Kiu) and Piauw Ki(Biu Ji).

    Fact: Sifu Lin learned two of these forms from his sifu, GM Tio Tek kwie.

    It is clear evidence in this video that Tim Kiao and Piauw Ki is from GM Tio Tek Kwie in which he explained the purpose and a bit of technical of these two forms. Note: There was also a video interview prior to this that GM Tio explained Siauw Lim Dou, however, we cannot locate that part yet.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVOIywcTzVo
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    5. Sergio Lie #5;

    Sergio tried making up some lie to discredit GM The Kang Hay during his visit for his HKB Seminar in USA on May 2011. Sergio claimed that GM The Kang Hay was just #4 in seniority.

    Fact: GM The Kang Hay is the current leader and most respected Grandmaster within HKB Grandmaster elders in Indonesia, not to mention he is the Grand Nephew of Kwee King Yang and the one the was appointed directly by Kwee King Yang to replace him teaching at Kwee King Yang’s Bukoan from age 18 to 27.

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    Everyone can contact any Grandmaster elders in Indonesia to verify this fact. Sergio was trying too hard to sabotage our HKB seminar and failed miserably.
    This was GM The Kang Hay’s response in his own words:

    Original:
    “Ini adah pesan langsung dari GM The Kang Hay.
    Subyek: Mengenai pernyataan dari Sergio
    Kepada: Sergio, GM Tio and semua yang berkepentingan.
    1. Mengenai pernyataan Sergio yang menuturkan bahwa saya adalah urutan 4 dalam senioritas adalah salah. Malah justru ke 10 jika perlu
    2. Terimakasih atas sanjungannya utk menempatkan saya urutan ke 4, walaupun itu terlalu tinggi bagi saya. Sepertinya kamu lebih mengetahui Tiokong saya dan keluarga saya bahkan melebihi saya sendiri dalam mengenal beliau walau waktu singkat mulai dari umur 18 Saya diangkat oleh Mpek King Yang sebegai pelatih di klimbungan sampai umur 27, dikawinkan. Setelah itu proses mengajar di klimbungan saya serahkan kepada murid saya, GM Xing Yen.
    Lebih dari itu, sepertinya anda seakan lebih mengetahui tentang riwayat hidup saya lebih daripada saya sendiri yang menjalani. GM The Kang Hay”


    Translation:
    “This is a message directly from GM The Kang Hay
    Subject: Regarding Sergio’s recent statement
    To: Sergio, GM Tio and whomever it may concern.
    #1 In regards to Sergio’s statement saying I, GM The Kang Hay, is #4 in reference to seniority. Not only is this statement extremely wrong, more than that to be accurate I am #10 in seniority not #4.
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    #2 Thank you for the compliment that put me at #4 in seniority. It is too high for me, however I thank you. It appears you know my grandfather and our family more than I do. Because after all I only knew him for a short time, since I was 18 until now at the age of 65. And by the way, GM Kwee King Yang arranged my marriage. When I was 18 I became his assistant teaching the students in Klimbungan until I turned 27 when he arranged my marriage. At that time the teaching process was replaced with my student who is GM Xing Yen.
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    It looks like you know the whole history of my life more than I do and…I am the one living it - GM The Kang Hay”

    This documentation can be found at:
    http://www.facebook.com/note.php?not...50187586931965
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    6. Clarification on Sergio Betrayal and Manipulation
    Lies: Sergio claimed that he left HKB because he discovered this and that.

    Fact: From the very beginning learning HKB under Sifu Lin Xiang Fuk, Sergio
    broke one of the most critical requirements in HKB as an Instructor Candidate, which is that he was not supposed to teach HKB yet, until he was certified.

    However, almost every time he was doing his seminar, he taught HKB even though he was not qualified to and didn’t receive permission. Sifu Lin’s concern is trying to make sure every ICP met the skill requirement for teaching HKB. In the end, Sifu Lin made a decision to kick Sergio out of HKB based on this point and by the advice of Grandmaster elders in Indonesia. However, while Sifu Lin was trying to salvage the good people from the bad ones, Sergio discovered this and made a slick move to recruit and manipulate GM Tio Tek Kwie in Indonesia and fabricate some lies.

    Not to mention there was a time that he tried to change HKB Logo by making up some story that he paid $10,000 to design it. Turned out it’s the plug-n-play version of his old IWKA logo+HKB.

    Here is the evidence of all the betrayal.
    a.*********** During his recorded interview, he stated that he want to sincerely learn HKB and only teach HKB. Fact: Wing Chun Chop Sue; http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0002.PNG
    b.*********** This is one of the HKB Instructor Candidate from Sergio who only had couple lesson from 2 meeting with Sifu Lin. Yet, was told by Sergio to teach HKB. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0004.PNG and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0008.PNG
    And how some of his crew support this act of pirate

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0005.PNG
    c.************ His un-authorized HKB Seminar in UK

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0009.PNG

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0010.PNG
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/a-c...ifu-sergio.mp3
    d.*********** He never received permission to teach, yet, claiming in Facebook about to teach HKB Instructor Candidates

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0015.PNG
    e.************ Another un-authorized HKB seminar in Italy

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0016.PNG

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0017.PNG

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0018.PNG

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0020.PNG
    f.************* Un-authorized Teaching HKB Unique concept of Heaven, Earth and Man

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0021.PNG
    g.*********** Un-authorized teaching HKB bridging hand

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0022.PNG

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0023.PNG

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0024.PNG

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0027.PNG
    h.*********** Another un-authorized HKB teaching in Germany

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/IMG_0026.PNG
    i.************* An email of sincere opinion and testimony about Sergio disrespectful behavior toward Sifu Lin in March 2011, written by Percival Rico from Philippine.

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/percival.pdf
    j.************* And also We just found out recently, during Sergio first introduction lesson to HKB by Sifu Lin in July 2010, he went straight to Belo Horizonte-Brazil and start un-authorized teaching them what he just learned from Sifu Lin. Sadly, we also just found out these guys in Brazil actually paid Sergio 9000 Euro on that visit for 3 days learning, 3 hours each. The rest of the day, they said Sergio just sleep in his hotel. Now we understand why Sergio tried to offer us to take over his Brazilian group as they no longer have any money. We ended up still accept them and adjust their instructor tuition as they ask for financial aid (After their money is being robbed by their Sifu).
    k.*********** On top of that, after about 1-2 months after he first learned from Sifu Lin in USA, he already started teaching HKB in his school in Amsterdam, UN-AUTHORIZEDLY and without Sifu Lin’s permission. Public can contact their regular student at his school to prove this statement. There are many of them want to stand up actually to testify.
    **All of these are some example why he was about to be kicked out of the HKB.
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    7. Clarification on Sergio HKB Skill

    Lies: Sergio positioned himself as an expert in the HKB system, that he propagated as 18 lohan hands.

    Fact: Sifu Lin admitted his progression was fast, but not enough mileage/experience in HKB and he didn’t meet the requirement to represent the real teaching of Kwee King Yang. Sergio only took a couple lessons out of the five meetings he had with Sifu Lin which was in August 2010 (USA), September/October 2010(Hong Kong), November 2010(USA), December 2010(USA) and March 2011(Hong Kong-Amsterdam). Everyone who learns HKB knows for a fact that HKB requires hard training, not instant! Five meetings is not enough!

    Even now, he claims to learn under GM Tio Tek Kwie that he manipulated, but has only had a couple meetings. Everyone that experiences learning under GM Tio Tek Kwie knows how traditional his teaching is and there is no way to develop skill within a few meetings. In our opinion, there is no way GM Tio Tek Kwie would certify anyone to teach after just a couple of meetings. GM Tio Tek Kwie’s skill is good, so if you want to learn GM Tio’s teaching; go directly to GM Tio, instead of a fraudulent middleman. GM Tio is humble and open and would accept anyone wanting to learn. Please contact Sifu Lin to get his contact info. In conclusion, we want to clarify that around 5-7 meetings in HKB is still beginner student level and Sergio is not qualified to teach or represent the teaching of Kwee King Yang.
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    8. Clarification on Sifu Lin’s study.

    Lies: Sergio claimed that Sifu Lin learned HKB from GM Tio and The Kang Hay in 2003.

    Fact: It is true Sifu Lin did not start with GM Tio Tek Kwie in 1985, why? Because Sifu Lin did not start learning HKB under GM Tio. His first and main Sifu was GM The Kang Hay. Sifu Lin was introduced to GM The Kang Hay in 1985 by his own father (Who was also a student at Kwee King Yang Bukoan, taught also by GM The Kang Hay). Sifu Lin’s parent’s house was very close to GM The Kang Hay’s. Whenever time permitted, he always went there by walking or riding a bicycle. Look how close his house was to GM The Kang Hay’s Bukoan;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwnsjOTXcUY


    9. Clarification on Sifu Lin’s stay in Japan
    Lies: Sergio claimed that Sifu Lin was in Japan teaching HKB calling it something else.
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    Fact: It is true that Sifu Lin went to Japan during the economic recession in Indonesia. His family (parents) suffered financial hardship. He told his parent’s he went to a different city to work, but in fact went to Japan to support his family. Sifu Lin did not tell his family as he didn’t want them to be worried. This is the reason why he kept this part of his life private. He never told his family until recently. Moreover, it is true that Sifu Lin taught a small group in Japan just to keep up with his martial arts training. However, he never taught HKB back then as he had not received permission from any of his Sifu to teach this yet. What he taught were some styles that he had collected during his teenage time, 8 years after he first learned HKB. Sifu Lin never denied he studied other styles as he stated on his website blackflagwingchun.com. It’s unfortunate that Sergio tried to blackmail Suhu Lin’s private life.

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    10. Clarification on HKB Grandmaster Elders

    Lies: Sergio claimed to be supported by the HKB elders in Indonesia.

    Fact: This is also not true, because Sergio is not welcome in the HKB Eng Chun (Hokkian Eng Chun Kok Sut Cia) family in Indonesia, whose leader is, GM The Kang Hay. GM The Kang Hay had stated clearly to Sifu Tio Tek Kwie that Sergio is and will never be part of the family. We only accept students with a good character.

    During this opportunity, GM The Kang Hay and Sifu Lin would like to extend an invitation to everyone. Please join us during our HKB December Banquet this year in Indonesia. You will get the direct opportunity to meet with all the active Grandmaster Elders to verify and validate every statement of this. Also feel free to bring your own translator (Before Sergio says anything). We are pretty sure that Sergio will try really hard to sabotage this, however, your attendance can be confidential upon your request and they can arrange a day and time to meet. Sergio in this case is also welcome to meet face to face with the elders in Indonesia.
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    11. Clarification on names of Sifu Lin
    Lies: Sergio claim Sifu Lin had multiple identities

    Fact: In Indonesia, between 1960-2000, the usage of a Chinese name was prohibited by the government. Every Chinese person that was born during this time were all given an official Indonesian name and unofficially a Chinese name passed down by their parents. For example, GM Tio Tek Kwie, his official Indonesian name is Tedja Wirardi Soetiono, but this doesn’t mean he uses multiple identities. In this case, for Sifu Lin Xiang Fuk, his official Indonesian name is Kenneth Salim, but in the U.S., since there is no restriction, he decided to use his Chinese name. There is nothing wrong with that.
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    12. Clarification on the Sergio’s lies of his ‘claimed 20,000 members”

    Fact: This is a portion of written email sent to me by one of his leader within iwka who left him along with big group of people because they are tired of his lies. I don’t want to release any name without his consent because I respect his privacy.
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    Sergio goes around to the inexperience Wing Chun enthusiast and tries to impress them with lies, EX: 20,000 members, 90 plus school, WC researcher expert……, and get them into his IWKA with false hope and promises. He teaches multiply Wing Chun and Weng Chun program in his school. The Yip Man lineage is his base program, and he will up sale his students to the Chi Sim Weng Chun saying that it’s a better system. Now he is using HKB concepts in his Weng Chun without giving credit back. His approach shows his character, which is nothing short of dishonor and abuse of all the lineages.

    “The thing is, Sergio always say, that he has 20.000 members, but the truth is, he has not more than 2.500. I know this, because I had the xxxxxxx [Censored]**and I was his xxxxxx[censored] student. He told me everything.

    Now he has less than 2500, because whole Spain, a part of Italy and 99% of Germany are left him. Together we are bigger than the whole IWKA*. That is the truth!!”


    Moreover, there a lot more lies that Sergio had made, especially his own students. He manipulated them and scam them big time. Best thing to find out the truth about Sergio is talk directly with his ex-leader & members in Spain, Germany and Italy.
    “*Im only a simple man, who want peace and harmony. Im happy now, that lot of things clear for me now. I was a very loyal and one of Sergio xxxxxxx[censored] student. For me, always honest is very important. Sergio lied to me in the last year so many times, took my student from me (xxxxxxxxxx[censored], you met him in the xxxxxx[censored]) and talked bad about me with him. Now my relationship with xxxxxxxxxx[censored] is good again and I wish him the best with Sergio”
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    13. Clarification on the Sergio’s lies
    Lies: “"c. We have talked on the phone with GM The Kang Hay together with GM Tio and we are very welcome, GM Tio Tek Kwie has been friends and kung fu brothers for many decades, its a sad attempt to ruin that and put a wall between them."
    Fact: As Sifu Lin was writing this, he was currently on the phone with GM The Kang Hay on phone. GM The Kang Hay directed Sifu Lin to state Sergio is FULL OF LIE. GM The Kang Hay never speak with Sergio in his entire life and doesn't welcome him into the family. Again, GM The Kang Hay doesn't talk with Sergio on the phone. This is one of the biggest lie made by Sergio. And being documented already. More over, if GM Tio as claimed by Sergio to have said this, then GM The Kang Hay had requested him[GM Tio] to swear [Sumpah Mati] by the kungfu family brotherhood name.

    Again, During this opportunity, GM The Kang Hay and Sifu Lin would like to extend an invitation to everyone. Please join us during our HKB December Banquet this year in Indonesia. You will get the direct opportunity to meet with all the active Grandmaster Elders to verify and validate every statement of this. Also feel free to bring your own translator (Before Sergio says anything). We are pretty sure that Sergio will try really hard to sabotage this, however, your attendance can be confidential upon your request and they can arrange a day and time to meet. Sergio in this case is also welcome to meet face to face with the elders in Indonesia.



    ***Note: Sifu Lin has hesitated for about almost one year, but finally for the greater good and for fraud prevention; he has agreed to release some of the evidence regarding the Sergio Iadarola case. Sifu Lin has discussed this Sergio situation with HKB Grandmaster elders in Indonesia by phone in the last several months as well as in person when Sifu Lin was called by his Sifu to come down in May 2011. Finally as of October 10, 2011, he was advised by his Sifu, GM The Kang Hay to make this official statement.


    We already anticipate that exposing this truth might provoke Sergio’s true character to more aggressively slander Sifu Lin Xiang Fuk, Sifu Benny Meng and the HKB Eng Chun Family and we may soon be receiving attack-hate mail after our first official statement we published this morning.

    We have been receiving so many emails from people giving their positive support dealing with this attack from Sergio.
    Some of them even apologized for not knowing earlier about the truth. We can understand this as well. No need to apologize as they didn’t know the truth at that time as we didn't want to share the evidence yet to avoid politics.
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    From the bottom of our heart, for everyone who has exchanged emails with us and finally know the truth, we want to let all of you know that this means a lot.

    The only hate mail we received so far are two, both from Sergio’s group which include:
    1. Name calling
    2. Making a threat to destroy Sifu Lin’s/Meng’s reputation and character as he had done it many times to other well known Sifus.

    This indicates that we were on the right track by exposing and revealing the truth here. Even if it was a mistake to reveal this, we are willing to take the risk of being wrong with our point of view.

    We received several warning letters from people betrayed by Sergio, prior to him coming on board with HKB. At that time we were defending him, but now it turned out that every word they said was true. (Some are documented here: http://mengsmartialarts.com/forum/in...ic,1112.0.html). It’s a learning experience, but we have moved forward.

    On the behalf of Shaolin HKB Eng Chun Pai Family, and Hokian Eng Chun Kok Sut family in Indonesia, we would like to thank you for your time reading this. We apologize if there’s any part of this statement that may offend anyone in some way. To all IWKA Leaders under Sergio, we also apologize if this may cause some disturbance in your business. We had no other choice because your Sifu, Sergio keep pushing us.

    To Sergio, we are very sorry to tell you things like this, but the truth is the truth and the truth should be protected at all costs. We hope you find your happiness one day and become a good person.

    If you have any further questions, please send an email directly to Sifu Lin or Sifu Meng. They don’t reply to anonymous or hate mail though 
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    Sincerely,
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    Sifu Lin Xiang Fuk and Sifu Benny Meng


    Important Links;
    1. YouTube Video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uhaq35jN00
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH8wFX3TSRQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu5XwDlT9ns
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVOIywcTzVo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwnsjOTXcUY

    2. Supporting Documents
    http://www.facebook.com/note.php?not...50187586931965
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/220...4_825646_o.jpg
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/219..._1369695_o.jpg
    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...0387185&type=1
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/44930001/tekkwiewithsikyen.jpg
    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...type=3&theater

    3. Other Links
    http://mengsmartialarts.com/forum/in...ic,1112.0.html
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    Incredulous rant threads can go in the off topic.
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    authentic wing chun is an oxymoron

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    Wtf is this crap?
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.

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    Official statement from Sifu Tio Tek Kwie about his former student Lin xiang fuk ( Ke

    http://www.facebook.com/notes/sifu-s...50369842309124
    Im Very dissapointed that my lessons about being a good and rightgeous person did not succeed by my student , I have to apologize to the Wing Chun community for having supported his Lie about Black Flag Wing Chun my reasons for doing so wer...e none other then to help him set his business up in the US as he convinced me that Wing Chun would be the way to go marketing wise,i did not realise the consequence of this decision.



    Again my sincere apologies for making this mistake,and i hope that my ex student can do the same,by disclosing the truth and giving his apologies to the Wing Chun world. in the past i have on several occasions followed his instructions to talk about my Teachers art as Wing Chun but i want to make it very clear that my teacher told me personally that the art is called 18 Lohan Hand



    furthermore i want to state that my relationship with my kung fu brother The Kang Hay cannot be broken by lies,dont ever try to break our relationship and that this photo of our reunion were all the direct student of kwee king yang are sitting should be proof enough.



    this is going to be my only written comment on all of your accusations as the Truth should indeed be protected at all times and especially the Honor of my beloved teacher Kwee King Yang.



    Sincerely Sifu Tio Tek Kwie

    Black Flag Wing Chun Statement by GM Tio Tek Kwie
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk3WPHKAMyg

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    Wait there's no cake here....

    What's this I don't even.....

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    I feel like I would rather fuk myself in my eye socket with my own D!ick than read this retarded sh!t. you guys and your stupid politics. Get over yourselves.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.

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    I'm pretty sure Ted had bigger arms and a nicer smile too.

    But all that aside, let's get to the meat and potatoes of this conflict and what it's about.

    Now, I've had my share of cabbages and onions
    I used to eat regular as they took away my bunions
    I started in with fruit
    But it really made me toot
    Had to stop that as it ruined my suit.

    how do we align this with flying like a monkey through the air?
    We don't. We simply go back to the old scheme for paying your utilities, rent and a weeks worth of groceries and we move on from there people, we just move on!

    i hope that this makes things infinitely clear.
    And remember kids, just say no, stay in school and don't do drugs, or your cousin, cause that makes the funny head babies.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    Official statement from Sifu Tio Tek Kwie about his former student Lin xiang fuk

    Im Very dissapointed that my lessons about being a good and rightgeous person did not succeed by my student , I have to apologize to the Wing Chun community for having supported his Lie about Black Flag Wing Chun my reasons for doing so wer...e none other then to help him set his business up in the US as he convinced me that Wing Chun would be the way to go marketing wise,i did not realise the consequence of this decision.

    Again my sincere apologies for making this mistake,and i hope that my ex student can do the same,by disclosing the truth and giving his apologies to the Wing Chun world. in the past i have on several occasions followed his instructions to talk about my Teachers art as Wing Chun but i want to make it very clear that my teacher told me personally that the art is called 18 Lohan Hand

    furthermore i want to state that my relationship with my kung fu brother The Kang Hay cannot be broken by lies,dont ever try to break our relationship and that this photo of our reunion were all the direct student of kwee king yang are sitting should be proof enough.

    this is going to be my only written comment on all of your accusations as the Truth should indeed be protected at all times and especially the Honor of my beloved teacher Kwee King Yang.

    Sincerely Sifu Tio Tek Kwie

    Video apology to the Wing Chun community
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk3WPHKAMyg

    Revealing...
    http://vtmshaolin3halls.blogspot.com/

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    who are you people?
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    wow more political bullsh!t. you guys don't know what email is or something? can't send a message like normal people? way to spam.


    Oh they are WC that explains it. You guys wonder why you have a bad name with this type of sh!t.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.

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    It's not wing chun, it 18 lohan hand.

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