Joe Rogan

[GeneChing]

UFC Joe Rogan says Wing Chun Kung Fu is ineffective and a waste of time!

I'm told he's actually referring to a fight connected to the one we covered in our March April 2010 issue (see Lucas's comment on that thread).

[goju]

joe rogan cant even tell the difference between slipping and bobbing and weaving

he really should just stick to his lousy stand up

[Three Harmonies]

Hate him as I do, he has solid points, and really is not dissing CMA unfairly, as he admitted he was a victim himself with TKD. What he says is for the most part, true.

He is also making reference to Black Taoist and Maoshan's silly nonsense in NYC.

Cheers

JAB

[MightyB]

Hate him as I do, he has solid points, and really is not dissing CMA unfairly, as he admitted he was a victim himself with TKD. What he says is for the most part, true.

And everyone will talk **** until someone proves the **** talking wrong! So far... no one. Simple.

JAB

When you're right... you're right. A lot of nonsense and tomfoolery has crept into old skool TCMA. We can ignore the obvious or do something about it. I prefer doing something about it.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Silva is from the chute boxing academy in Rio, one of the top guys( coaches) there, perhaps the founder( I am not sure, going on memory here), used to do TKD before switching to MT.
That is were Silva probably picked some of the kicks up.

[goju]

theres this too

[HumbleWCGuy]

Interestingly, there seem to be more black sifus than white. Part of this is because it was difficult for blacks to train in Karate during the 60's and 70's which was dominated by white racists. This was even true to some extent in the 80's.

[HumbleWCGuy]

Joe really just needs to shut up. Anderson Silva Uses TKD all the time. Karate sucked until Machida. I suppose kung fu will suck until it's Machida comes along. Although San Da Does not suck by mma standards.

[Three Harmonies]

I do not understand the "black vs. white" thing. And I would argue that there are "more" black teachers than white. All depends on where you live.

Silva does not use TKD, it is Muay Thai. And everyone will talk **** until someone proves the **** talking wrong! So far... no one. Simple.

JAB

[HumbleWCGuy]

I do not understand the "black vs. white" thing. And I would argue that there are "more" black teachers than white. All depends on where you live.

Silva does not use TKD, it is Muay Thai. And everyone will talk **** until someone proves the **** talking wrong! So far... no one. Simple.

JAB

Sorry Bud, Anderson uses side stances, snapping round houses, and side kicks all the time. Those just aren't in the Muay Thai play book. Just do a search. Sure he uses the plumb and some standard Muay Thai, but he is doing a lot more TKD much to the chagrin of his MT coaches.


I should probably say that there is a higher proportion of Black to white sifus than black to white senseis. Although, I think that there might actually be more black sifus than white in the United States.

[goju]

Joe really just needs to shut up. Anderson Silva Uses TKD all the time. Karate sucked until Machida. I suppose kung fu will suck until it's Machida comes along. Although San Da Does not suck by mma standards.

joe also said tkd has no knees in it lol

[RisingCrane]

It makes me a bit sad to watch that clip. It's clear he doesn't understand what kung fu is.
He laughs at moves like 'Tiger claws' and 'monkey fists', but HIS teacher uses colorful names like 'chill dog' and 'jiu claw'. A name is just a name- the training that goes behind it to make it effective is the what 'kung fu' means. It is a valid criticism that many Chinese martial artists have an overestimation of how much fighting skill they actually have- but that's just because of a lack of actual sparring and fighting experience, not the techniques themselves (SURELY everybody knows that a tiger claw to the face would hurt, that does not need to be proven?)
He says that when the two kung fu guys fought, it turned into an MMA match...
Actually, it turned into a fight. 'Hammerfist in side control" is not muay thai OR BJJ - its fighting. MMA guys fight- so it looked like that.
Simple really.

[Ultimatewingchun]

I've spoken to Shawn Obasi on the phone twice within the last 6 weeks or so - and he's an interesting character.

Check this out:

http://inasectv.com/view_episode.php?id=243

[Ultimatewingchun]

And on another forum, Joe Rogan had this to say:

"Shawn can fight, no doubt. For some reason he thought I was talking about him when I was doing Michael Schiavello's interview, but like I explained to him, I was talking about dudes that practice nonsense in the park, not guys that actually fight MMA. Shawn has real good power in his hands and actually knows how to fight and competes...."

[HumbleWCGuy]

Saying that every kung fu practitioner, except 1, sucks, doesn't make me happy.