kuoshu lei tai

[mjw]

Anyone ever do one of these kuoshu lei tai tournaments?
Experiences thoughts?

[Ben Gash]

The format is slightly kooky (you can knee, but you can't throw inside leg kicks?) but alright. I prefer San Shou and MMA TBH.

[Golden Arms]

They are a decent format, but train in the helmet first so you can get used to the lack of vision. Its the only format I have fought under that allowed shoes which is interesting I suppose.

[Mike Patterson]

The format is slightly kooky (you can knee, but you can't throw inside leg kicks?) but alright. I prefer San Shou and MMA TBH.

Actually, unless things have changed dramatically since my involvement, you can indeed throw both inside and outside leg kicks. Although they do want to see them land at least six inches away from the knee.

I also personally worked very hard to get both elbows and knees back into the events while involved (they had once deleted them from all but world competitions) and eventually succeeded in doing just that.

My one remaining complaint had to do with the "off the platform" rule as it allows for too much "bull rushing" on the part of larger opponents.

I am also not real fond of the headcage and never have been. It makes for a constantly guarded nose and this contributes to a great deal of flailing on the part of some combatants.

Many things changed over the years. I prefer the old ways as it was more real, but I do understand the need for certain safety measures in amateur events.

[Ben Gash]

I wish there was a like/thank button on this forum. Certainly both event here that I've taken fighters to have explicitly disallowed inside kicks.
I also don't like the headguards (I also don't like the San Shou chestguards), and they kinda make elbows redundant.
I wish we could get away from Lei Tai as well. The ringout rule is just silly, I'd prefer a high sided ring or a cage. One of my guys had a chest injury for months after he fell off the Lei Tai onto his opponent's knee

[Ben Gash]

The UK guys have been trying to get a pro Koushu league going, with no headguards and a ground fast wrestling rule similar to Sambo which looks pretty cool. Not sure what kind of headway they've made though.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I see it as an "inferior" method to Daidojuku.

[Mike Patterson]

I wish there was a like/thank button on this forum. Certainly both event here that I've taken fighters to have explicitly disallowed inside kicks.
I also don't like the headguards (I also don't like the San Shou chestguards), and they kinda make elbows redundant.
I wish we could get away from Lei Tai as well. The ringout rule is just silly, I'd prefer a high sided ring or a cage. One of my guys had a chest injury for months after he fell off the Lei Tai onto his opponent's knee

The UK guys have been trying to get a pro Koushu league going, with no headguards and a ground fast wrestling rule similar to Sambo which looks pretty cool. Not sure what kind of headway they've made though.

Hmm... that's odd, Ben. I have never seen a non-standard rule set from any country. Are your Kuoshu events not affilated with I.C.K.F. or U.S.C.K.F.?

I hear you about the injuries on the platform. One of my heavyweights broke his upper humerous as a result of a 340 lb. opponent falling on him as they went off together.

Good luck on that pro league. They tried to keep me involved here with the promise of that at the end. But I was so fed up with the internal politics by that time that I just didn't care anymore. Besides which, it never actually happened. I told the powers that be had they proposed it in the late 90's prior to my departure, I would have made it happen for them. I always thought that with a few more rule tweaks, the venue held promise as a great spectator event.