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    Yep. I agree with Frank and James.
    "Methinks the lady doth protest too much...."
    You are overly concerned with um...not being concerned..?
    Yeah, we all know the politics and mudslinging. Just let it go. There is no need to even address it-especially on your website.
    "My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
    Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"

    "I will not be part of the generation
    that killed Kung-Fu."

    ....step.

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    werent you the guy that went around the internet in 2003 asking people to translate white crane instructional books for you?

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    Pak Mei

    Above your logo (on the linked page) why is there a Pak Mei salutation?

    Also it's been taken from the cover of "Pak Mei: A Dedication" by Robert Yandle:


    http://www.amazon.com/Pak-Mei-Dedica.../dp/0865682674


    Just an observation.
    Tung Kong Hakka Chow Gar Naam Pai Tong Long

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    Guys really don't have the time for this but here goes .........

    Ginosifu:
    Thank you!

    JamesC: Don't know that much about you either! Don't believe everything you see or read on the Internet! most people know that by now. A little about me: Firstly mate, I don't want anyone to put me on some sort of pedestal, it just makes it higher for me to fall when I f#@k up! There have been many who questioned my "pedigree" (like it's supposed to be something that's important! .... Go figure!). Non of these critics have ever met me or left the comfort of their keyboard to come and see what it is I do. Over the years I have seen articles, web postings, discussion boards etc about my teachings ... What I say to all this who cares? The proof is in the pudding and on the floor of my training hall in what and how I teach and communicate/interact with others. All the rest, well its all Bull@#t! Have I divided the martial arts community with my opinions, Hell yes!

    Having a page called "Controversy" is me simply addressing what I see as being so much Bulldust within the so called "Martial Arts" world. far too many "Martial Artists" (I'm not one by the way, I am a "Martial Seeker" - There is a difference!) get carried away with their own self importance and so called "Professionalism" to the point that their honesty flies out the window and they become "snake Oil" salesmen.

    With me ... What you see is what you get and I'm not about to put on some bull@#t act just to get you to come and train with! ... Plenty of other Martial Arts schools out there!

    My site is not meant to be "professional" ..... What in the blue hell is that anyway!

    Blacktiger: Thanks buddy, appreciate your opinion. Please see above.

    TenTigers: Thanks for your comments. Me protest? Of course! That's it in a nutshell ..... "protest", "make some noise", raise some opinions, stop "playing it safe" & "professional which really equates to "marketable". If it makes just one person think and maybe question then I'm down with that! But me being concerned about what others have to say ... sorry buddy but you and I don't know each other. You sound like a nice guy so don't get all bent up out of shape over it all. maybe if you actually knew me you'd see it a little differently? ..... Who knows?

    Bawang: Now here's a guy I get! A Martial Rebel! Bawang I've never claimed to speak, read or write fluently in either Japanese/Okinawan or Chinese in its many forms. Hell man I have enough trouble with English and I come from a Cornwall and French heritage!

    Charp choi: Hey thanks for the heads up. I was not aware of that, just a nice image I found "googling images on the net. Will change that in the next few days!

    Guys, I am a great believer in the Martial/Life philosophy of my mate Erle Montaigue. My students (fellow seekers) don't blindly follow me down some gilded "Yellow Brick Road'. They don't jump down the "Rabbit Hole" to wonderland to martial arts awareness. I openly encourage them to question everything and believe nothing other than their own hearts and experiences including that which I share with them. I tell go on the Web, that wonderful repository of "True " Martial Arts knowledge (I'm joking!), look up my name, read through all the "stuff" out there and then see what we do on floor and how I treat people in everyday life and then make up their own minds. You know what .... they are all Good People and that's just fine with me!

    Ron Goninan
    China Fuzhou Zhenlan Crane Boxing Australia
    White Crane Research Institute Inc
    http://www.whitecranegongfu.info
    A seeker of the way

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    Never give your detractors more ammo.
    I would remove that whole rant. Just scrub it.
    That's not your focus, don't let others think it is.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    After reading through your site I didn't learn anything about White Crane at all. On the other hand I did learn a lot about Ron Goninan.

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    Thank you all for your comments .. really!

    Ultimately it's all your choice and that's the wonderful thing about being human after all! I welcome your views, I really do! But I also want to explain my own without you or others taking offence or discouraging me from my own self expression.

    What's of importance is different to many people. To my critics (yeah I have a few) they have issues that are not all focussed on "Martial Arts Training". My training is very important to me. Being up-front is also important to me as in this way people know what they are getting and able to make their own choices. Again the wonderful thing about being human!

    David Jamieson:Hey great to you regarding the politics. I pretty much agree but I don't run and hide from such things. I address it from my point of view so others can make up their own minds. I'm not out to change the world or the martial arts .. that's simply to big of a job ... but I am out to make people think, question and think again. If I have made that happen and it would seem I have from your reply and the replies of others then that's great! Far too many within the martial arts blindly follow for fear of finding themselves ... that's not me!

    Wenshu: Try here:

    http://www.whitecranegongfu.com/wu%2...zhan%20pai.htm

    Maybe you missed this page?


    Thanks for the discussion. maybe you'd like to revisit the site and read all its contents and then maybe you might change your view or maybe not. At the very least you'd have a better understanding then you do now ... hey you may even find something small of value or interest!

    All the best to you and no hard feelings ......................

    Ron Goninan
    China Fuzhou Zhenlan Crane Boxing Australia
    White Crane Research Institute Inc
    http://www.whitecranegongfu.info
    A seeker of the way

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