Why Was Wing Chun Created?

[Hardwork108]

Wing Chun was developed for women to protect themselves from men.
The elbows in position and yi ji kim yeung ma, knees inward is to protect their breasts and private ares from being groped.

And how are they supposed to protect their butts from being grabbed?

ok, well that's what I heard one guy say. I have no idea where he got it from, but he was dead serious.
Probably a karotty guy....
Have any of you guys heard this?

I guess the fact that the human body has many vital strike targets on the Central Line, never crossed his mind....LOL

[k gledhill]

And how are they supposed to protect their butts from being grabbed?


I guess the fact that the human body has many vital strike targets on the Central Line, never crossed his mind....LOL

Waddle backwards or alternatively use her double rear anti Italian "hello hands" Ciao bella regazza ! squeeze

[TenTigers]

I guess the fact that the human body has many vital strike targets on the Central Line, never crossed his mind....LOL

Dude, you serious? What guy ever tried to fondle a girl's vital points?

[k gledhill]

Knife : interesting listening to a guy who is explaining 2 sword fighting, not VT knife concepts until the end of the talk... simultaneous actions are harder to train but yield better results.
His mentioning when his one arm guard lifting the elbow allowing a rib shot also shows why we use 2 blades to cover our flanks as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCbJHGYI0hI

[bennyvt]

You should always pay attention to the vital spots. That's why they come back

[Hardwork108]

Dude, you serious? What guy ever tried to fondle a girl's vital points?

Hey, I try it all the time.

[WhiteTiger666]

Wing Chun style was made up by a female nun for women to be able to defeat a man in combat.

I like WC it is a very effective style when learned properly by the right teacher.

[Graham H]

Wing Chun style was made up by a female nun for women to be able to defeat a man in combat.

..............and GOD made the world in 7 days 6000 years ago!

GH

[lance]

What is the reason Wing Chun was created?


When Wing Chun was originally devised and created from other styles that currently existed what was the reason for its invention or creation?

Wing Chun was created as a emergency style , at that time the northen shaolin temple was a target of attack by the manchu government . The manchus in turn had their own kung fu experts too , so their skills and the skills of the shaolin monks was a challenge . So the high shaolin monks and the lady monk Ng Mui got together to create a new system which could be taught in a short period of time , but yet concentrate on effiency , and they came up with ideas like centerline theory , simultaneuos defending and attacking , low kicks to jam the kicks of their opponent , and medium high kicks to the strike the middle part of the body area , instead of high kicks , because they felt that if they were to use high kicks in close range they can lose their balance and get killed . And they had to figure out how to make the style fit for a women too . So the use of chi sao or sticking hands was developed so the women , could trap the man ' s hands and the women could just move into the man and destroy him by agressively attacking him with punches and kicks , and to make a long story short whatever the WC system contained is what the high monks and Ng Mui came up with , and the reason why it was called WC was because the meeting hall in the shaolin temple where the monks met to discuss their new fighting system , was called the Wc hall .

This story came out of the the Inside Kung Fu magazine when they were covering WC . along with stories of Ip Man and GM William Cheung , in general .

[Graham H]

Wing Chun was created as a emergency style , at that time the northen shaolin temple was a target of attack by the manchu government . The manchus in turn had their own kung fu experts too , so their skills and the skills of the shaolin monks was a challenge . So the high shaolin monks and the lady monk Ng Mui got together to create a new system which could be taught in a short period of time , but yet concentrate on effiency , and they came up with ideas like centerline theory , simultaneuos defending and attacking , low kicks to jam the kicks of their opponent , and medium high kicks to the strike the middle part of the body area , instead of high kicks , because they felt that if they were to use high kicks in close range they can lose their balance and get killed . And they had to figure out how to make the style fit for a women too . So the use of chi sao or sticking hands was developed so the women , could trap the man ' s hands and the women could just move into the man and destroy him by agressively attacking him with punches and kicks , and to make a long story short whatever the WC system contained is what the high monks and Ng Mui came up with , and the reason why it was called WC was because the meeting hall in the shaolin temple where the monks met to discuss their new fighting system , was called the Wc hall .

This story came out of the the Inside Kung Fu magazine when they were covering WC . along with stories of Ip Man and GM William Cheung , in general .

The stories of VT being created by a woman for women is false. Anybody with an ounce of common sense will see that. Do you not believe the story that Ip Man invented the story of Ng Mui? The history of Ving Tsun is not known. Factual information does not start until many years after the story of Yim Wing Chun was meant to have happened.

If the stories are true then where are all these women that should be kicking mens butts? Maybe they are in hiding. You give a woman a 10ft pole or a couple of 1kg per piece knives and watch her go..........................nowhere.

Anybody that thinks that chinese martial arts were invented from watching animals fight are stupid. Have you ever seen a snake fight a crane? Give a human some claws, a beak, make them crawl on their bellies and chuck some some wings in then make them fight for their starving chicks then maybe we will be living in the real world.

William Cheung a Grandmaster? Do me a favour!

GH

[LoneTiger108]

I have always been taught to keep an open mind when looking into the past of our system, and not believe the many men out there that will say anything to discredit the 'little idea' that a female had anything to do with the creation of a Martial Art. Because that's all it is, an idea for us to contemplate. If you want facts we can only start with Ip Man himself, or his generation at least imho. And to be frank, if you know anything about his many female students you may have a different understanding of the system and how it can be taught.

If anyone here has had close contact with a member of the Wing Chun family they would have heard numerous stories about the origins of the system and our connections to Shaolin. People who debunk the studies of our ancestors not only show a lack of respect for their arts past development but I have noticed that generally the people I meet and chat/train with who come with this sort of negativity couldn't learn the more subtle, feminine methods because they simply had so many masculine habits in their training.

So in answer to the question, why was Wing Chun created? I would suggest it was to help promote compassion and the use of both Yin and Yang concepts within the training of Martial Arts in general, as just maybe the centuries of masculine influence within the Shaoilin Temples only contributed to the demise of the Monks health and longevity.

[Graham H]

I have always been taught to keep an open mind when looking into the past of our system, and not believe the many men out there that will say anything to discredit the 'little idea' that a female had anything to do with the creation of a Martial Art. Because that's all it is, an idea for us to contemplate. If you want facts we can only start with Ip Man himself, or his generation at least imho. And to be frank, if you know anything about his many female students you may have a different understanding of the system and how it can be taught.

If anyone here has had close contact with a member of the Wing Chun family they would have heard numerous stories about the origins of the system and our connections to Shaolin. People who debunk the studies of our ancestors not only show a lack of respect for their arts past development but I have noticed that generally the people I meet and chat/train with who come with this sort of negativity couldn't learn the more subtle, feminine methods because they simply had so many masculine habits in their training.

So in answer to the question, why was Wing Chun created? I would suggest it was to help promote compassion and the use of both Yin and Yang concepts within the training of Martial Arts in general, as just maybe the centuries of masculine influence within the Shaoilin Temples only contributed to the demise of the Monks health and longevity.

You haven't got an open mind Spencer. If you did you would be living in the real world and not in fantasy fu land.

All the people I have met in Wing Chun who can hold their own don't believe in such crazy ideas. In fact everybody who believes in such myths are charlatans who are good salesmen but poor fighters.

Whilst I have no interest in the craziness of WC I was told a story that came from a friend of Yip Man himself. Yip Man used to say the style was invented by a woman in order to humiliate certain factions of Kung Fu that were regulary beaten by the WC clans. I will beleive that story over any talk of a nun witnessing a fight between two animals and inventing a whole system of martial arts.

You talk about masculine and femeine ideas...............I think you are full of sh1t!

I know the feeling is mutual and we both wont lose any sleep over it.

God bless America.

GH

[LoneTiger108]

You talk about masculine and femeine ideas...............I think you are full of sh1t!

I know the feeling is mutual and we both wont lose any sleep over it.

You see, that's where you are wrong yet again G.

I hold no hard feelings towards you personally at all, I have never met you or even seen you do any Wing Chun! I don't think you're full of sh1t either, just someone who has been unfortunate in their martial journey.

We all learn throughout life dude, and if you can not bring yourself to see the nature of Yum Yeurng within Wing Chun then that's your business. And for the record, I believe I have more of an open mind than you will ever have because I was trained to

[Graham H]

You see, that's where you are wrong yet again G.

I hold no hard feelings towards you personally at all, I have never met you or even seen you do any Wing Chun! I don't think you're full of sh1t either, just someone who has been unfortunate in their martial journey.

We all learn throughout life dude, and if you can not bring yourself to see the nature of Yum Yeurng within Wing Chun then that's your business. And for the record, I believe I have more of an open mind than you will ever have because I was trained to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSL2-aHj1lg

....thinking of you!

GH

[sanjuro_ronin]

People "create" a system of H2H combat to meet THEIR needs and IF that system catches on ( other people find that it also meets their needs) it progresses from generation to generation.
It is truly that simple.
WC was created by someone to meet their needs at the time, it worked for others to meet THEIR needs and was passed on over the generation.