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    Does WC work?

    Yes in the right environment it does!!!

    If you want your WC to work in the sports environment it needs to be modified or innovated.


    For instance MMA is very good with MMA rules and regulations. But a MMA guy would not fair well in the following competitions!

    1.Pro Heavy Weight Boxing Match - By Boxing Rules only
    2.Tae Kwon Do Olympics competition - By TKD rules only
    3.Kick Boxing competition - By kick boxing rules only
    4.Point Fighting Competition - By full contact karate rules only
    5.Kyoshukin free fighting competition - by their rules only
    6.Muay Thai ring fight - By MT rules only
    7.Tai Chi Push hands - By Tai Chi Chuan rules only
    8.Wing Chun Chi Sau or Sparring - By WC rules only
    9.Kung Fu competition - By the Kung Fu rules only
    10.Street fighting challenge by no rules!

    A MMA guys tools would be banned or restricted in most of the competition where ground fighting is not allowed. In boxing if you hit the ground you back away so he can get a ten second count. In Mongolian Wrestling you loose once you hit the ground. In TKD there is no punching just kicks. In Kyoshukin you can only punch the body and kicks go to head and body. No ground fighting. In combat Judo the arm bar is not to tap the opponent out but break the arm. Many of MMA guys tools would be banned or forbidden. Do you think a MMA guy would fair well in non-sport judo match, Akikido match or collegiate wrestling match? Where he couldnt use his other stand up tools?

    Taking Wing Chun a Street Fighting Art and placing in the cage where Most of his bread and butter techniques can not be used negates his tools!
    Last edited by Yoshiyahu; 10-22-2011 at 11:15 AM.
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    Question

    Would a pure BJJ guy do well in San Shou tournament?
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    how would a mma guy fair in a tui shou or chi sau match?
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    The flow can be canceled very easially , most WC is just flowery hands with no substance.

    Quoting Bruce Lee without knowing what he is talking about will not give you any credit.

    Try to use your own words.

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    But a MMA guy would not fair well in the following competitions!
    He might fare Ok though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    ...For instance MMA is very good with MMA rules and regulations. But a MMA guy would not fair well in the following competitions!

    1.Pro Heavy Weight Boxing Match - By Boxing Rules only
    2.Tae Kwon Do Olympics competition - By TKD rules only
    3.Kick Boxing competition - By kick boxing rules only
    4.Point Fighting Competition - By full contact karate rules only
    5.Kyoshukin free fighting competition - by their rules only
    6.Muay Thai ring fight - By MT rules only
    7.Tai Chi Push hands - By Tai Chi Chuan rules only
    8.Wing Chun Chi Sau or Sparring - By WC rules only
    9.Kung Fu competition - By the Kung Fu rules only
    10.Street fighting challenge by no rules!
    Aside from Chi-Sao being a drill and not sparring, what the @#% is "Sparring - By WC rules only"????



    Go and spar with a MMA guy with no rules and you'll be in for a surprise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    The flow can be canceled very easially , most WC is just flowery hands with no substance.

    Quoting Bruce Lee without knowing what he is talking about will not give you any credit.

    Try to use your own words.
    lol thats my signature buddy do you like it?

    by the way these are my own words!!! - "The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

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    Last edited by Yoshiyahu; 10-29-2011 at 05:22 PM.
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    Quote Originally Posted by anerlich View Post
    He might fare Ok though.
    how could he fair okay in a Chi Sau competition or push hands competition?
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    how could he fair okay in a Chi Sau competition or push hands competition?
    because theres no such thing as a chi sao competetion, only clowns who doesnt know what chi sao is ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesper View Post
    because theres no such thing as a chi sao competetion, only clowns who doesnt know what chi sao is ?
    Have you not ever heard of Chi Sau competitions?


    http://www.sixharmony.com/chisao.html

    http://www.uswingchun.com/index.php?...ask=view&id=36

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02fVjxI1Fa4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWJ3xQwcI60

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwUgiAHP2BQ


    seems like these are all consider chi sau competitions to me buddy?
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post

    the inmates run rampant...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesper View Post
    because theres no such thing as a chi sao competetion, only clowns who doesnt know what chi sao is ?
    Thank you, glad someone agrees that chi-sao is not a competition, but a mutual drill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    Thank you, glad someone agrees that chi-sao is not a competition, but a mutual drill.
    i agree it is a drill with in your kwoon and among brethren...


    But today they have blasted chi competitions you do realize this right?
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    i agree it is a drill with in your kwoon and among brethren...


    But today they have blasted chi competitions you do realize this right?
    and the fact that people attend those means what exactly ?

    I have seen people compete in walking backwards, doesnt make it any less stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesper View Post
    and the fact that people attend those means what exactly ?

    I have seen people compete in walking backwards, doesnt make it any less stupid
    Augustine Fong participated in chi sau competition!!!

    Do you believe his Wing Chun is stupid?
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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