"The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". -Cus D'Amato
Actually, the highschool I attended was a very civilized institution. I only have fond memories of the place.
As for getting laid, let me tell you that I have been working in nightclubs for over 22 years. That is in London, Rio de Janeiro and here in Cali. Basically, what I am trying to tell you is that I have gotten laid more times than you have had dinners.
So, it seems that not only I know more about authentic kung fu practice than you do, but also I have more fun and know more about the ladies too.
Nope usually its your abrasive demeanor.Or perhaps truth and the consequent enlightenment hurt those who are "caught by surprise"?
Originally posted by BawangOriginally posted by Bawangi had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.
Would you two like the rest of us to leave you alone?
Sorry about that. It is just that Dragonzbane here likes to stalk me across this forum and "provoke situations". Apparently, every time I speak pro-TCMA in relation to his beloved MMA (I still don't know why him - and others of "MMA is best" persuasion - post in this kung fu forum), he sees it as "abrassiveness" on my part, hence the stalking.
Sign of the times, I say....
HW108- You do all these things you complain about.
You continue to badger and bait people and continue to taunt with "clueless idiots" and so on and so forth.
You don't so much talk with people as you do talk at them.
So, be warned, if you continue down this path again the former result of that behaviour from you will be permanent.
So mind your P's and Q's I won't ask you again and it's not up for debate.
Be civil or be gone. Tired of it already.
Kung Fu is good for you.
Me posting in multiple threads does not mean anything. In all truth most times i choose to skip conversations with u in them because it usually ends with a meaningless debate of the same crap. You think too highly of yourself for me to care in all events concerning u. Because you hate my opinions so much usually its u that illicits the conversations. Leave me alone and ill return the curtesy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taixuquan99
Would you two like the rest of us to leave you alone?
Sorry about that. It is just that Dragonzbane here likes to stalk me across this forum and "provoke situations". Apparently, every time I speak pro-TCMA in relation to his beloved MMA (I still don't know why him - and others of "MMA is best" persuasion - post in this kung fu forum), he sees it as "abrassiveness" on my part, hence the stalking.
Sign of the times, I say....
Originally posted by BawangOriginally posted by Bawangi had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.
I might just do that, but I remember reading it with a smile on my face. He did say that ground fighting was practiced during his time in Taiwan, and not just in his school. He also confirmed the Internal approach, hence its validity. On top of that he said that in his school, 50% of the training involves the forms practice.
All of the above and their validity have been discussed to death in this forum, and often with valid points on both sides, but what sifu Patterson said validates what me and people like me have been saying here for years - that the Internals exist; forms training is an important tool, and that the TCMAs do address the ground scenario.
If you remember, I have for a long time referred to my Mainland Chinese Wing Chun syllabus, where ground training is part of the curriculum.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
These are a few quotes from Sifu Patterson:
Here, sifu Patterson answers Dragonzbane76's question as to wether he had to go "elsewhere" to learn grappling:Originally Posted by Mike Patterson
See, I did not misread Sifu Patterson. It is all there, and of course, and as always, ground fighting is still part of the traditional curriculum of the Mainland Chinese lineage of Wing Chun which I study.Originally Posted by Mike Patterson
More quotes from Sifu Patterson:
It would seem that outside of the China/Taiwan, etc. the TCMAs are trained somewhat differently, for the most part, hence people's erroneous views and assumptions as regards what they contain and don't.Originally Posted by Mike Patterson
And this says it all:
Originally Posted by Mike Patterson
At face value, there are a number of standing applications that one can extrapolate for possible use on the ground. But theoretical extrapolation doesn't equate to styles that actively had or have practice and training in such scenarios.
I shake my head to the majority of what was on the videos that were posted as evidence of TCMA/Shaolin "ground fighting".
Those of us that train and have trained in a CMA, need to be honest with ourselves. The vast, vast majority of CMA does not include fighting on the ground outside of excapes and techniques designed to get back up.
The more than a little bit of "vs MMA" or "vs grappler" type videos and demonstrations I've seen are really not that practical. There are millions of guys and now a growing number of gals out there that have wrestled in highschool, or local club, or amateur athletics. And I'm sure many of them that watch so many of these vids showing how a "grappler" attempts a takedown against a kung fu stylist roll thier eyes at such ignorance.
I study a CMA, have for over twenty years now, but like a buch of other people on these boards, I also wrestled in highschool. I enjoy my training and have learned a lot. But we really need to get past this "vs MMA" mentality. If what we study doesn't have a practical method in a certain scenario or fighting range, well, it just doesn't have it. It doesn't invalidate everything else you train and learn.