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Thread: The Problem With Wing Chun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    Is there self defense technique where you use an elbow?
    The whole system is devoted to using the centered elbows...

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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    The whole system is devoted to using the centered elbows...
    So you are not suppose to hit someone with an elbow?
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    So you are not suppose to hit someone with an elbow?
    Not if its behind your fist...

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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    Not if its behind your fist...
    The Infamous If!!!

    If im too close to you to use a fist what do you do?
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    The Infamous If!!!

    If im too close to you to use a fist what do you do?
    move and angle ..."cut the way" .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    The Infamous If!!!

    If im too close to you to use a fist what do you do?
    Bil Jee gives us ideas on what to do if you cannot use the fist from being to close. BJ is for abnormal situations so I would say you wouldn't get that close to a generic me. Timing, distance and mobility is something that determines range. Punching power and precision is what stops people in their tracks.

    GH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    The Infamous If!!!

    If im too close to you to use a fist what do you do?
    Personally I'd lock into you with my whole body, using shoulder/knee/elbow attack/defence. Only for a split second mind lol! I wouldn't want to be branded a wrestler!!

    Get in, get out. Simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k gledhill View Post
    move and angle ..."cut the way" .
    I will be slicing you with an elbow as you move and angle buddy!
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    I love my knees and elbows. They can be way devastating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imperialtaichi View Post
    Couldn't agree more. My pet hate, seeing those "self defence" techniques focusing on scoring points, striking without proper balance and not backed by the rest of the body ***** slapping the imaginary attacker, is in fact dangerous for the students. Imagine someone getting into a real fight thinking he/she can fight, just to realise his/her cannot fight! Crazy!
    I agree too and the scenario you mention will put the practitioner in more danger than he would have been if he had not taken up kung fu classes, because he will think that he knows how to fight and may less likely walk away from a fight, which will result in him being surprised and hurt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwork108 View Post
    I agree too and the scenario you mention will put the practitioner in more danger than he would have been if he had not taken up kung fu classes, because he will think that he knows how to fight and may less likely walk away from a fight, which will result in him being surprised and hurt!
    So true!!!

    Training with out fighting!!!
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    The biggest issues with Wing Chun, is that drilling and chi sau doesn't make you a fighter. The old roof top fights we all heard about, allowed them to tie all their training together and become very good. They learned to deal with variables and different type of attacks. So how do you get down timing and positioning without seeing attacks going at you 'at speed'? Have to have some form of training that can cover that aspect. As bad as sparring is looked down on from some, and I understand the issues, but is hard to get this skill set without either sparring or fighting.

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    Wing Chun works best with a knife in each hand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbOnd40I4XE

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    I agree whole heartily

    Quote Originally Posted by mesar View Post
    The biggest issues with Wing Chun, is that drilling and chi sau doesn't make you a fighter. The old roof top fights we all heard about, allowed them to tie all their training together and become very good. They learned to deal with variables and different type of attacks. So how do you get down timing and positioning without seeing attacks going at you 'at speed'? Have to have some form of training that can cover that aspect. As bad as sparring is looked down on from some, and I understand the issues, but is hard to get this skill set without either sparring or fighting.
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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