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    Gym routine for Kung Fu?

    I Kung Fu train twice a week but also have access to a general gym next to my University three times a week, I have been doing a stronglifts strength routine (squats/deadlifts/bench/military press) on and off for a couple of years but I'm not sure if this fits in well with a martial art or not?

    I'd like to hold the horse stance longer and do anything else to compliment my Kung Fu training

    Advice appreciated!

    Many thanks,

    Mike

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    I do sets/drills/forms between sets of weights. It also provides a fascinating sense of your own body when your arms are smoked, and you are doing hand forms immediately after... or kicking after doing squats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjharper View Post
    I Kung Fu train twice a week but also have access to a general gym next to my University three times a week, I have been doing a stronglifts strength routine (squats/deadlifts/bench/military press) on and off for a couple of years but I'm not sure if this fits in well with a martial art or not?

    I'd like to hold the horse stance longer and do anything else to compliment my Kung Fu training

    Advice appreciated!

    Many thanks,

    Mike
    Your workout should be fine. As a piece of advice, if you want a good horse for kung fu, I find it's better, instead of thinking of holding it longer, to train to drop into it as though you were dropping behind an opponent and throwing them, in short, make it into a dynamic stance that you go into and come out of readily. When you can throw the person who can hold the stance longer using the stance, you learn to live with the shame of not being able to hold the stance as long.

    Mostly kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjharper View Post
    squats/deadlifts/bench/military press
    As far as lifts go those are all you need, might want to do good mornings too, body wait stuff like push up, sit ups and planks are good on non lift days. Try stretching after you are done with your squats, my deepest stretches have been after squats

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjharper View Post
    access to a general gym ...
    The weight pulley will be good. It can help you to train defense against leg shooting - press your opponent's head down to ground.

    http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5606/weightpulley2.jpg
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    I do sets/drills/forms between sets of weights. It also provides a fascinating sense of your own body when your arms are smoked, and you are doing hand forms immediately after... or kicking after doing squats.
    I usually do the sets/drills/forms after i've done everything. Like you said you feel it more and get the fatigue more prominent after you've done all your weight regiment. I also throw a mile and half run in sometimes after my weights.
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    Cheers guys

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    Best ratio of pulling to pressing upper body exercises for MA = 2 to 1
    Add Chins variations
    Inverted row variations
    DB row variations
    Cable pull variations

    Core anti-extension
    Core anti-rotation

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    Check out this site, lots of good ideas here:

    http://rosstraining.com/blog/
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    Something to watch out for is that training a lot of high intensity work concurrently with max strength will smoke you pretty quickly. Mind your recovery to avoid remorse for the week prior's over training.

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    weight lifting and kung fu training are one and the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by mjharper View Post

    I'd like to hold the horse stance longer and do anything else to compliment my Kung Fu training
    weight vest/hold squat stance under smith machine until failure
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    If you can separate the lifting from the martial arts I think it's great.

    My point, in lifting you resist and fight the weight. You struggle against it. In fighting you drop the weight, you let it go. You don't resist.

    Just keep that in mind. Don't bring a muscle head mentality to class. Try not to overpower your classmates when drilling. Use technique.

    Then when you face someone for real you have power AND technique.... though power is good to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray pina View Post
    if you can separate the lifting from the martial arts i think it's great.

    My point, in lifting you resist and fight the weight. You struggle against it. In fighting you drop the weight, you let it go. You don't resist.

    Just keep that in mind. Don't bring a muscle head mentality to class. Try not to overpower your classmates when drilling. Use technique.

    Then when you face someone for real you have power and technique.... Though power is good to have.
    wut?

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    abandon all notions of weightlifting to supplement your kungfu. Added bulk only makes you slow and inflexible, thus counterproductive to good kung fu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brule View Post
    abandon all notions of weightlifting to supplement your kungfu. Added bulk only makes you slow and inflexible, thus counterproductive to good kung fu.
    what? Yer trolling dude. lol.

    Resistance training is key to building strength, strength is key to having kung fu. Many, many, many of the great kung fu men did resistance training or lifting.

    even today weight is used by scores of kung fu players, myself included.

    I don't body build, but weight is key to maintaining this adonis like shape I got going on!

    For instance, this man in this picture is Chiu Wai, Older son of Chiu Kao and older brother of Chiu Chi Ling. Look at what lays resting on the floor to the right of this pic. :-)
    Last edited by David Jamieson; 11-03-2011 at 01:32 PM.
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