To Choke, Strangle or Twist?

[wenshu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuNylxOHbvI

[Drake]

What the (expletive) ever. Now you are changing the environment OR wording, for what reason, I don't know, to show that necks can broken. NO SH$T. But you CANNOT SNAP SOMEONE'S NECK WITH TWO HANDS.

Yes, you can HURT the neck. I CLEARLY SAID THAT.

And YES, hitting someone upside the HEAD WITH A GODDAMM FREE WEIGHT CAN PROBABLY BREAK A NECK TOO.

Grow up, and stop living in denial. Changing the subject, or twisting my words is f*cking immature and f*cking irritating.

[Golden Arms]

Drake,

You are the one changing words. The inmate was hit in a surprise attack, got angry, grabbed the guy with his two hands, and broke his neck.

[Taixuquan99]

What the (expletive) ever. Now you are changing the environment OR wording, for what reason, I don't know, to show that necks can broken. NO SH$T. But you CANNOT SNAP SOMEONE'S NECK WITH TWO HANDS.

Yes, you can HURT the neck. I CLEARLY SAID THAT.

And YES, hitting someone upside the HEAD WITH A GODDAMM FREE WEIGHT CAN PROBABLY BREAK A NECK TOO.

Grow up, and stop living in denial. Changing the subject, or twisting my words is f*cking immature and f*cking irritating.

First, cool off, people are saying what they think. You changed context and wording as much as anyone, and certainly your response is ridiculously mature.

Second, where is the debunking?

Third, hurt and pain compliance are not necessarily synonymous. Hurt has the idea of injure in there, and the neck simply is not nearly as resilient as you suggest.

You claimed expertise, provide it.

[Golden Arms]

My father was a doctor in Vietnam and then did quite a bit of emergency room work, on at least two occasions he told me of people that had their necks broken while fighting.

I am honestly kind of surprised that someone is arguing that it cannot be done. I never said it is easy to do if someone is resisting you, but neither is an arm bar, punching someone in the face, leg locks of various types, and breaking someones back (something that is likely more difficult to do than a neck, but also possible).

Drake,

I have done my share of fighting, both full contact and the occasional real world scuffle, I am not by any means a form fairy.

[Drake]

Drake,

You are the one changing words. The inmate was hit in a surprise attack, got angry, grabbed the guy with his two hands, and broke his neck.

did you read your own article?

[Drake]

My father was a doctor in Vietnam and then did quite a bit of emergency room work, on at least two occasions he told me of people that had their necks broken while fighting.

I am honestly kind of surprised that someone is arguing that it cannot be done. I never said it is easy to do if someone is resisting you, but neither is an arm bar, punching someone in the face, leg locks of various types, and breaking someones back (something that is likely more difficult to do than a neck, but also possible).

Drake,

I have done my share of fighting, both full contact and the occasional real world scuffle, I am not by any means a form fairy.

Who called you a forms fairy? JESUS CHRIST GET YOUR CRAP STRAIGHT. I LIKE FORMS.

[Drake]

Awesome, we've got anecdotes, misread articles, movie clips, and stories from NAM.

Again, as someone pointed out, ask a chiropractor how much force it takes.

And get your facts straight.

[Taixuquan99]

did you read your own article?

The article wasn't about the inmate, the inmate was a second story in his post, and not referenced in the article.

[Golden Arms]

Awesome, we've got anecdotes, misread articles, movie clips, and stories from NAM.

Again, as someone pointed out, ask a chiropractor how much force it takes.

And get your facts straight.

And I am the one that pointed out the chiropractor. Seems like the whole thing was a misunderstanding.

Long story short, a neck can be broken, but the average joe should likely not count on doing it (especially if the person is conscious).

[Drake]

And it was RWilson, who apparently doesn't like me either, who used the term forms fairy.

Apparently, anyone who debunks mystic "super lethal" neck breaking snaps is a TCMA-hating MMAist.

[Taixuquan99]

Awesome, we've got anecdotes, misread articles, movie clips, and stories from NAM.

Again, as someone pointed out, ask a chiropractor how much force it takes.

And get your facts straight.

A chiropractor? Seriously?

If you're gonna be disrespectful because people don't get all your terms straight and don't cite their claims and misread your posts, then it might help if you didn't get their terms wrong, fail to cite your claims, and misread their posts.

Mighty high horse there over nothing.

[Drake]

And I am the one that pointed out the chiropractor. Seems like the whole thing was a misunderstanding.

Long story short, a neck can be broken, but the average joe should likely not count on doing it (especially if the person is conscious).

So then what's the argument? I said you can't snap someone's neck. I said you can wrench it, and it hurts.

I don't even understand what you are disagreeing with me about.

[Drake]

A chiropractor? Seriously?

If you're gonna be disrespectful because people don't get all your terms straight and don't cite their claims and misread your posts, then it might help if you didn't get their terms wrong, fail to cite your claims, and misread their posts.

Mighty high horse there over nothing.

Too late, Skippy... too late...

[Drake]

A chiropractor? Seriously?

If you're gonna be disrespectful because people don't get all your terms straight and don't cite their claims and misread your posts, then it might help if you didn't get their terms wrong, fail to cite your claims, and misread their posts.

Mighty high horse there over nothing.

Stop being so sensitive, Francis.