9 Continents in Chinese Mythology

[Xian]

Hey everybody,
I reading on a a thread of Bak Siu Lum 8 Provicences Staff. There was a note mention the belief of 9 Continents in Ancient Chinese. Can somebody help me with some information about that, like links or any other infos ?
Thanks really appreciate that.


Kind regards,
Xian

[Xiao3 Meng4]

Not sure about the 9 continents thing - are you SURE it's 9 continents, or could it be 9 kingdoms, or 9 lands?

Hazarding a guess, I'd say it's an allegory for the Ba-Gua/8 trigrams/8 directions; a middle kingdom, with 8 kingdoms surrounding it.

Another way to look at it would be "8 ways of living/moving/being, one way of combining them all."

[YouKnowWho]

This is the only thing that I can find.

九洲：指中国；四海：古人认为，中国九州之久是一望无际的大海，此指中国以外的地方。指中国及四周以外的地 方。

Jiuzhou: China; the four seas: the ancients believed that long was the endless sea of Kyushu in China, this means a place outside of China. Other than China and around the place.

9 continents = China;

[uki]

it makes sense if you believe in atlantis and lemuria(mu)... both of which sank beneath the waves in the distant past.

[Lucas]

Hey Uki what do you think about the Yonaguni discovery?

Also somewhat unrelated but what are your thoughts on Gobekli Tepe?

[kristcaldwell]

i've heard it translated as "nine provinces" and "nine kingdoms" as well. from my understanding, it refers to a (mythical?) period when china was composed of nine provinces...the routine gets its name because it is said to have been so famous that it was renown throughout all nine provinces.

[David Jamieson]

Hey Uki what do you think about the Yonaguni discovery?

Also somewhat unrelated but what are your thoughts on Gobekli Tepe?

Oh, I'm not Uki, but I like this subject matter, so...

The submerged neolithic mound in the sea off the coast of Okinawa is probably just that. A carved and decorated mound used as a gathering place, possibly for diety worship before the cataclysmic end of the last Ice Age which saw the coastlines of the world changed dramatically.

Gobekli Tepé, a civilization that existed during the last ice age that suffered the same fate as many ancient neolithic and post neolithic settlements when the last ice age ended and caused flooding pretty much everywhere on earth.

[Lucas]

what do you think about the theory that gobekli tepe was buried on purpose to preserve it? do you think those peoples saw the end coming?

[David Jamieson]

what do you think about the theory that gobekli tepe was buried on purpose to preserve it? do you think those peoples saw the end coming?

Possible that it could have been buried to sacrifice it as well.

It's really hard to say because it is ALL speculation and conjecture due to their being zero frame of reference for sites that extend so far into pre-history.

But, it's ok to simply not know.

[Drake]

Atlantis was never described as a continent, but rather a city, and only one person originated the story. Plato said he dreamt of it. However, the idea of a city being sunk into the sea isn't terribly farfetched, and it has happened in the past. You are, however, seriously pushing the reality-meter when trying to apply this to a continent. And island, perhaps... but there's no sensible person with a background in geology that will back the sinking continent concept.

[Drake]

Oh, and welcome back, Uki

[hskwarrior]

well they just found a dinosaur nest in mongolia.....no joke....much stuff has to be buried still...unfound....

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articl...21/3370505.htm

[Drake]

well they just found a dinosaur nest in mongolia.....no joke....much stuff has to be buried still...unfound....

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articl...21/3370505.htm

You won't find any disagreements there. But what they found in Mongolia, while an amazing find, is still utterly plausible and valid in terms of what we know.

[David Jamieson]

Atlantis was never described as a continent, but rather a city, and only one person originated the story. Plato said he dreamt of it. However, the idea of a city being sunk into the sea isn't terribly farfetched, and it has happened in the past. You are, however, seriously pushing the reality-meter when trying to apply this to a continent. And island, perhaps... but there's no sensible person with a background in geology that will back the sinking continent concept.

dreamt? No dude.

In Plato's 'Republic' there is a dialogue between Timaeus and Critaeus and the information is purported to have been advanced to Plato through the traveler Solon.
This is the actual only account of Atlantis ever recorded and everything else about it such as Donnelly and Cayce et al is late 19th century esoterica and nonsense of course, but that was big in that day and you had a lot of people too dumb for scientific endeavours who went with the malarkey of occultism instead and they came up with a huge load of shit that we are still combing through today to separate the raisins from the rat droppings of it all.

Anyway, Solon was the Greek who traveled to Egypt and learned much about them prior to the rise of Socratic thought such as Plato practiced. It was Solon who tells us how the Egyptians invented concrete before the Romans and how in fact, Egypt was likely the source of the recipe for roman concrete. it was the retelling of Solon's tale, then discussed by Plato's students as written in The Republic that Atlantis has it's start in our history.

More than likely it was a morality tale used to analogously explain why Greed and Self Interest is not the best state of mind for a society to adhere to.

Go figure we still have that problem today!

[Drake]

Right, I know that. What I'm saying is that it is suspected that he once said he dreamt of it, thus its inclusion in The Republic.