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[GlennR]

theres a lot to be said for speaking quietly and carrying a big club too

Yeh, big clubs rock.

Heres a question for you Kev... would you say PB VT is more like Alis style or Joes if you had to make a comparison?

[k gledhill]

Yeh, big clubs rock.

Heres a question for you Kev... would you say PB VT is more like Alis style or Joes if you had to make a comparison?

Ali, float 'n' sting , move 'n' angle, but with Thomas The Hit man Hearns arms

[Hardwork108]

Yeh, big clubs rock.

Heres a question for you Kev... would you say PB VT is more like Alis style or Joes if you had to make a comparison?

It is probably similar to both, as just like boxing PB people don't use elbows....LOL!


Seriously though, I know the question was not for me, but I believe that all WC was designed to be "surgical".

[GlennR]

Ali, float 'n' sting , move 'n' angle, but with Thomas The Hit man Hearns arms

Thanks for that, and boy couldnt hearns hit, but from my experience with WSL guys here in Oz i would have said they were more frazier-like in their approach..... constant pressure.

[Hardwork108]

Thanks for that, and boy couldnt hearns hit, but from my experience with WSL guys here in Oz i would have said they were more frazier-like in their approach..... constant pressure.

I thought that all Wing Chun was about constant pressure - flowing and "flooding" through your enemy with constant intensity?

[GlennR]

I thought that all Wing Chun was about constant pressure - flowing and "flooding" through your enemy with constant intensity?

You missed my earlier point.... some emphasise certain aspects more than others IMO.

As an example, TWC guys dont seem to have the same forward pressure as WSL guys BUT seem a bit lighter on their feet with more lateral movement, thats my experience anyway.

Sure, the TWC guys have forward pressure but they dont focus on it as much as other lineages.... doesnt stop making it WC though.

Frazier was all about forward and pressure, Ali wasnt.... still boxers though

GlennR

[k gledhill]

Thanks for that, and boy couldnt hearns hit, but from my experience with WSL guys here in Oz i would have said they were more frazier-like in their approach..... constant pressure.

guilty myself before I learned a more angular approach with counter attacking.

[GlennR]

guilty myself before I learned a more angular approach with counter attacking.

Thats interesting Kev.... so youd view PBVT and a counterstriking style rahter than offensive?

[k gledhill]

Thats interesting Kev.... so youd view PBVT and a counterstriking style rahter than offensive?

Its no less offensive, it sets guys up to over extend , cross arms, turn to reface from over momentum loss of balance...over quickly. There is no eggbeater from hell approach with a lead leg.

[GlennR]

Its no less offensive, it sets guys up to over extend , cross arms, turn to reface from over momentum loss of balance...over quickly. There is no eggbeater from hell approach with a lead leg.

You just described a counterstriker

Thats my take on WC as well.... and youre right, counterstrikers can be very offensive

[Phil Redmond]

Since I have a varied WC background I see good in many WC "interpretations". But I don't think I have the "Holy Grail" as Kevin and Graham feel they do.

[k gledhill]

Since I have a varied WC background I see good in many WC "interpretations". But I don't think I have the "Holy Grail" as Kevin and Graham feel they do.

not the holy grail, the elbow grail....

[Phil Redmond]

not the holy grail, the elbow grail....

Not according to the chi sau/o clips I've seen. I can make a clip explaining immovable elbow that is a principle across lineages if you'd like.

[Phil Redmond]

I just did a google search and found a few Wing Chun schools that understand Mo Yuk Jiang/Bot Doan Jiang . Maybe I don't have t make a clip after all.

[Phil Redmond]

Kev, I'd put money on the fact that you could show me something useful and I could show you something useful. It's the nature of the martial "arts". There goes the I got the real deal idea. During a single class I can show students to cover a jab differently based on their size, speed, etc. Fighting is individual. I'd hate to have a student body of carbon copy robots. Sometimes I learn a new way to teach something based on what a student is able to pull off under pressure. I think pretty highly of my fighting ability yet I don't think I know it all. That's one thing you could learn from me.