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    grappling as your only training? not always the best idea

    Ok I for one am all for cross training in grappling and anti grappling. People on a certain other forum i'm sure we all know which one constantly hates on styles outside of the ones trained in MMA. I'm not saying they're right or wrong but look at this video and answer if you think you need a primary striking system for self defense instead of just doing grappling.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00g5a416rdU

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    I'm a big advocate of grappling and honestly I will say, that if you are doing just one thing and not training all the zones of fighting then yes things like this happen. But then again, sometimes you can not stop this kind of thing. Blind sided and taken down and someone kicks you in the face. Not much that TCMA can give you that would help IMO...

    If you want to improve your chances in encounters like this. Train all levels of fighting not just grappling and not just stand up. Train grappling/clinch/standup in tandum.
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    dont know this guy seems to do ok with just grappling
    and to be honest id rather get hit with a punch than the suplex he hits at 0.17

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie1GGP3-eTE

    the scariest guys i have ever seen fight have all been grapplers, (well apart from the rugby guys i have seen get into fights but hey that is grappling lol), something about the ablity to man handle your opponent and throw him around in just plain scary

    one of my mates who is mainly a grappler suplexed a guy unconcious in a fight, then when he came round choked him back asleep, no punches thrown

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    Many years ago, a striker challenged a grappler. The grappler went to his teacher and asked for suggestion. "I don't know striking. What should I do?" The teacher said, "Can you take it?" During the challenge day. The striker delievered a powerful roundhouse kick at the grappler's chest area. The grappler caught it with his arm. It almst broke his arm. The grappler bited on his lips, accepted the pain, and took his opponent down to the ground. The fight then finished right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Many years ago, a striker challenged a grappler. The grappler went to his teacher and asked for suggestion. "I don't know striking. What should I do?" The teacher said, "Can you take it?" During the challenge day. The striker delievered a powerful roundhouse kick at the grappler's chest area. The grappler cuaght it with his arm. It almst broke his arm. The grappler bited on his lips, accepted the pain, and took his opponent down to the ground. The fight then finished right there.
    I guess that guy in the video couldn't take it on the chin, that is why a striker needs to be able to pick the targets that are weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    I guess that guy in the video couldn't take it on the chin, that is why a striker needs to be able to pick the targets that are weak.
    sure good luck with that

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    Ground Fighting in the Street !

    Another good reason to Re Evaluate if you are going to the Ground in a Street Fight:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=00g5a416rdU

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    Or, if you're the guy on bottom, maybe you need groundfighting so your woman doesn't have to save you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    Or, if you're the guy on bottom, maybe you need groundfighting so your woman doesn't have to save you.
    LOL!

    MK, you have a good point there!

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    NICE!

    I would take that chick home and put on my bib if she did that for me.


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    Wow, i'm really surprised at why there isn't more SNIBE or Holier then Thou Comments!!!!


    I'm still expecting to see jokes about how

    - Totally unrealistic, False pretenders of Street fights have been pushing this Warning of 3rd party interference to the wayside for years now. The video is probably a fake, because Nobody ever jumps in to save a friend. Especially a girl.

    - What is supposed to happen is that a circle should form around the fighters and they should be allowed to finish the fight unmolested. Again, it's unrealistic.

    - a REAL Grappler would have been more street aware and would never have taken a kick to the face from a 3rd party....EVER because it doesn't happen in the gym.

    - OR not to be undone...Trained fighters also HAVE MOMS that can sneak up on your fight and do a better job of kicking your opponant in the face.

    -It's a documented fact that Moms or girlfriends of Trained fighters can fight better than those of untrained common street thugs.

    - The girl or MOM was obviously a HIGHLY TRAINED MMA FIGHTER. Only THEY posses the Raw ability to knock a person out with a kick. It's so obvious that THAT particular girl or mom has knocked out many people...she probably kicks bags and boards on a regular basis. Her clothes confirm it.

    - OR....OR, wow if an untrained mom can knock someone out...imagine how much MORE KNOCKED OUT he would have been if she were a highly trained fighting er...Mom.

    Why'd you show this Gino??? Geez
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    i thought we already did this thread?!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    i thought we already did this thread?!?!?
    Sorry Lucas...I couldn't resist. I know...Blame Gino...Ya blame him. haha
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    For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.

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