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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Country and metal are both derived from Jazz, and contain a lot of the very same musical elements and structure. Your statement contradicts your stance. A metal guitarist and a country guitarist actually only have minor differences in playing styles, and could easily interchange between both subgenres of Jazz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Country and metal are both derived from Jazz, and contain a lot of the very same musical elements and structure. Your statement contradicts your stance. A metal guitarist and a country guitarist actually only have minor differences in playing styles, and could easily interchange between both subgenres of Jazz.
    Sure, they're related.

    But they're not the same.

    MMA and TMA are related.

    But they're not the same.

    And metal guitar and country guitar styles have fundamental differences. When was the last time a country guitarrist employed sweep picking?

    A TMAist seeing an MMAist do MMA techniques and calling them TMA is like a country musician seeing a metal guy shredding and saying it's country music.

    You guys have to either be trolling or drinking so much Kool-Aid you've lost touch with reality and rational thought.

    I leave you with this country music guitar player video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG74e...eature=related
    Last edited by IronFist; 12-01-2011 at 03:07 PM.
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    I took Jazz guitar in college... and have been playing for years. I know what I'm talking about.
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    I've been playing guitar since 5th grade and giving lessons since 8th.

    But even if I had no experience it wouldn't change the fact that I'm right.

    Same fundamentals don't = same styles
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    Of course you are.
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    Here's a better example:

    A country guitarist could not "easily" just decide to start playing in minor harmonic modes, using sweep arpeggios and 8 finger tapping techniques one day if he decided to, yet metal guitarists do these things daily. This assumes the country guy switched over to a guitar that is designed for metal. Good luck doing those things on some hollow body electric with a wide neck.

    While country and metal guitar have similarities, they are not the same. They are not interchangable. They are distinctly different.

    Each style musician trains the way he plays on stage.

    Only in TMA do you have people who train one way (TMA stuff) and actually use it for real (in sparring) a different way (kickboxing) and then try to say it's the same.

    That's like a metal guitarist "training" by playing open chords on an acoustic guitar when he has a concert that night where he will be expected to shred

    Drake, I know you are trolling but sadly I think other people here are serious. The TMA Koolaid is delicious and some people can't stop drinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronFist View Post
    The TMA Koolaid is delicious and some people can't stop drinking.
    What?!? Do I have a red moustache or something?
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    What exactly is so efficient about an mma poser incessantly trying to convince a bunch of kung fu larpers they shouldn't practice tae kwon do?

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    Eddie Van Halen popularized wider and flatter necks.
    Steve Howe plays a large body electric.
    Most country players play Strats and Teles anyway.
    Minor arpeggios,sweep picking, are actually classical guitar techniques.
    If they were implemented into rock, they can certainly be implemented into country.
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    For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenTigers View Post
    Eddie Van Halen popularized wider and flatter necks.
    Steve Howe plays a large body electric.
    Most country players play Strats and Teles anyway.
    Minor arpeggios,sweep picking, are actually classical guitar techniques.
    If they were implemented into rock, they can certainly be implemented into country.
    Witness the Hel1ecasters.
    I was agreeing with him so he'd stop. Now look what you've done...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yum Cha View Post
    This clip has been put out there, showing a successful straight blast attack, Belfort v Silva

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1dh_...layer_embedded

    Anybody out there not see a TCMA influence in there? Where did that technique come from? Watching the footwork too.
    Even 10 year old TCMA kids do that




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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    I was agreeing with him so he'd stop. Now look what you've done...
    Yeah, well he was talking about guitars and Rock n'Roll.
    It's important!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I started my "1 step 3 punches" training when I was 11 years old.
    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    We actually make the students run and do sprints while throwing their punches and/or kicks. From one end of the basketball court to the other.

    [...]

    Still, it's all basically alternating footwork reverse punch.
    Here's a Praying Mantis student stepping through the footwork. Not saying it's exclusive to TCMA or anybody else. (Note the full range of body torque that I had mentioned before.)



    It was good enough for a 130lb kid to run some 200+ lb adult blackbelts, MMA, and boxers into the wall at open mat sparring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robinhood View Post
    If your arm is longer than my leg, maybe !.

    Why do these guys just back straight away, isn't that the first thing to learn don't go straight back?

    To much offense not enough defense in most of these fights, I think Machida is one of the few that seems to have defense qualities.
    If you end up in a defensive mode, it is very difficult to get out of that unless someone lets up on you. However, you're right, don't back straight up either.

    Kicking someone in the nuts, BTW, is a lot harder than most people think it is. I don't know when the last time it was that you sparred or fought someone but I usually have a pretty good idea of what I can actually pull off.

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