if their chin is tucked in and you do make contact, i think it would hit the nose or mouth (there is a knockout point just below the lip).

yaosing:

"I studied for three years, learning two forms: Bai Yuan Tou Tao (白猿偷桃 white ape steals peaches) and Kui Yuan, as well as a spear form which I never finished."

Two things - first for the Minimally Mature Artist types that think the Masters only practiced forms, what do you think he was practicing for hours a day probably 6 or 7 days a week all those years? I seriously doubt it was only forms.

so i asked master zhou exaclty what kind of training he did......

a lot of basics, partner work and bagwork (a large leather sand-filled bag, where 2 people stood either side of it and hit it back and forth with power moves eg shuang bang shou/beng chui or combos)
forms were more like homework