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    What do you make of this? A question for scientific types, who know about astronomy!

    I came across this video clip, apparently filmed by NASA while observing Mercury. Unlike the person who discusses this, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but it would be good to get some informed opinions about what this huge object could be.

    http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/...cury-ufo-2219/




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    It's an artifact. I trust a scientist with a doctorate degree, as well as years of experience, over "siniXster". You could learn from this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    It's an artifact. I trust a scientist with a doctorate degree, as well as years of experience, over "siniXster". You could learn from this.
    What do you mean by "artifact"? Also, I did not make any comments about what that object was, as I simply don't know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwork108 View Post
    What do you mean by "artifact"? Also, I did not make any comments about what that object was, as I simply don't know!
    Artifacts are errors that occur in photography and other graphical methods of presenting data. Gives the appearance that there is something else there, when in reality, it is just an error. They explained the problem with this one, because the device simply wasn't up to this difficult task. It got some good data, but of course, they probably knew this would happen too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Artifacts are errors that occur in photography and other graphical methods of presenting data. Gives the appearance that there is something else there, when in reality, it is just an error. They explained the problem with this one, because the device simply wasn't up to this difficult task. It got some good data, but of course, they probably knew this would happen too.
    Thank you. I guess that is one good explanation.

    I guess what got to people was the fact that whatever it was, appeared only during the "flare up". Not before. And if was a print that was left by the planet from the day before, then why did the print appear in a different shape to that of the planet. It would be fascinating to see some scientific types discussing this.
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    The article points out that they were using a specific type of device for the flare up... and using it in a manner in which it isn't normally used. That's why.

    It's the same thing with "ghost" pictures... with an unexplained light or dark spot resulting from camera or film defects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    The article points out that they were using a specific type of device for the flare up... and using it in a manner in which it isn't normally used. That's why.

    It's the same thing with "ghost" pictures... with an unexplained light or dark spot resulting from camera or film defects.
    I know, and they make a good case. "Errors" such as this are common. I do keep wondering if this phenomenon was something that they could not explain, wether they would admit it.

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    Greetings,

    An artifact? Is that what they call weather balloons in outer space?

    When looking at stuff like this, I try to get at least two points of reference. So to really get my attention, you need to get footage from another camera showing the same thing. There is another way to go about it and that involves meditation. The guy is a bit manipulative with his descriptions and that is a red flag for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwork108 View Post
    I know, and they make a good case. "Errors" such as this are common. I do keep wondering if this phenomenon was something that they could not explain, wether they would admit it.
    Astronomy is full of stuff we can't explain. Dark matter, for example, we keep fumbling over. Usually when astrophysicists and astronomers can't explain something, they make it very, very clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Astronomy is full of stuff we can't explain. Dark matter, for example, we keep fumbling over. Usually when astrophysicists and astronomers can't explain something, they make it very, very clear.
    True, but sometimes they come up with theories, which are nothing but educated guesses, which is fine too, but has to be differentiated from actual knowledge.

    Sometimes, for ego's sake it is easier to attribute unexplained phenomenon to equipment failure, then to say that we have no idea, because this or that phenomenom could be attributed to dark matter.

    Anyway, what I am trying to say also is that if you get 10 scientists looking at an unexplained or strange event, then you may never get a solid consensus as to what to what it is.

    That is why sometimes it is good to get people who are somewhat specialists or at least well informed to discuss such events, even if they have a simple "down to earth" explanations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwork108 View Post
    True, but sometimes they come up with theories, which are nothing but educated guesses, which is fine too, but has to be differentiated from actual knowledge.

    Sometimes, for ego's sake it is easier to attribute unexplained phenomenon to equipment failure, then to say that we have no idea, because this or that phenomenom could be attributed to dark matter.

    Anyway, what I am trying to say also is that if you get 10 scientists looking at an unexplained or strange event, then you may never get a solid consensus as to what to what it is.

    That is why sometimes it is good to get people who are somewhat specialists or at least well informed to discuss such events, even if they have a simple "down to earth" explanations.
    Artifacts are fairly obvious and common phenomenon; dark matter, not so much. You can usually tell by how divided a scientific community is over something as a way of measuring how little we know about it.

    Sometimes you have to be careful, or you get the vaccination fandango, with only a handful of doctors spreading the notion that vaccinations will turn you into a werewolf.
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
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    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
    ~ Joe Lewis

    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
    ~ Author unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Artifacts are fairly obvious and common phenomenon; dark matter, not so much. You can usually tell by how divided a scientific community is over something as a way of measuring how little we know about it.

    Sometimes you have to be careful, or you get the vaccination fandango, with only a handful of doctors spreading the notion that vaccinations will turn you into a werewolf.

    There are a lot of unsettled issues regarding vaccinations, such as the stuff they use as preservatives in them. Also, the fact that current medical "wisdom" in some countries recommends that infants, whose immune system has not even fully developed naturally, to be given dozen or so multiple vaccines.

    I remember seeing an actual German expert questioning this on UK Tv many years ago, and warning about later side effects for those who take them, earlier in life.

    I also remember during my time in Brasil, when during the soring heat of Rio de Janeiro summer, flu vaccine ads would appear on TV, encouraging people to take flu vaccines to protect them from Flu.

    When one lives in a politically corrupt system, wether it is in the northern or southern hemisphere, one has to be vary of Big Pharma and its power.

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    go look at google earth space section. you can find TONS of artifacts. i remember my sister thought she found something amazing. she was so dissapointed when i wikid artifacts for her. lol. she wasnt dumb or anything, just wasnt informed.


    dark matter is just a theory. just like gravitons, tachyons and the like. i know cern is really hoping to see gravitons. we'll see.

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    While I don't think vaccinations are bad, I do agree that some are useless. Anthrax? Useless. Flu shots? Depends. They usually go with the flu strain that is most prevalent that season. I'm of the mind that it's more to protect the infants and elderly, as well as those with weakened immune systems. Otherwise, most of us can weather the flu. I'm no medical expert, so I'll go with what they recommend... I still don't think I need a flu shot unless my immune system is compromised.

    But as for really messing people up? I doubt it. Too many doctors think it's nonsense.
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
    ~ Mark Twain

    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
    ~ Joe Lewis

    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
    ~ Author unknown

    "You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"

    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

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    I never was vaccinated. I never get bacterial sick. EVER. the odd viral sickness passes thru, but it always seems to be minimal. Guess im lucky. I believe that i don't get bacterial sicknesses cause i spent my childhood in the dirt. my mother was never one of the disinfectant nazi pus$ies that i saw all around me.

    i honestly believe that we are creating generations of sickly kids with all this over the top cleanliness bull****. between antibiotics and disinfectant, we'll be lucky to make it another 200 years.
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