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    When a Bagua guy fights a WC guy

    What will happen when a Bagua guy fights a WC guy?

    Please comment.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io_qLYs8Ocw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h-ge...eature=related

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    they will grapple and gnp
    For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.

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    dirty wing chun.

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    That was embarrassing to watch :/

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    They just fight by whatever engrained reactions are most dominate, which judging by the fight was not either style, and the most aggressive stronger fighter wins.

    That's sport fighting.

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    The interest thing about that WC fight was his opponent studied him in great detail and he didn't even notice it. Is there a such thing that you should hide how you are going to fight before the fighting start? If the WC guy was smart, he should jump up and down like everybody else and suddently moved in and take his opponent's head off.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1dh_...layer_embedded

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    What will happen when a Bagua guy fights a WC guy?

    Please comment.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io_qLYs8Ocw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h-ge...eature=related
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    Silly straw man comparisons.I didn't see any wc- just some poor chap with a hand overextended.
    Why do you make these silly comparisons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vajramusti View Post
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    Silly straw man comparisons.I didn't see any wc- just some poor chap with a hand overextended.
    Why do you make these silly comparisons?
    I wondered that until his last post. Apparently he was trying to illustrate a point about the art of war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vajramusti View Post
    Why do you make these silly comparisons?
    Sometime we could learn from good fight. Sometime we could learn from bad fight as well. I don't care about the fighting result. There is always a winner and there is always a loser. But not knowing why you lose could be a problem.

    How to

    - hide your style,
    - study your opponent,

    before the fight could have some interesting discussion.

    The Bagua circle walking fight style also has some weakness.
    Last edited by YouKnowWho; 12-15-2011 at 06:33 PM.

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    See? Told ya so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinDan View Post
    See? Told ya so.
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    yup-he gets bored when not lecturing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vajramusti View Post
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    yup-he gets bored when not lecturing.
    - I started this thread as "Please comment."
    - You asked me, "Why do you make these silly comparisons?"
    - I give your my reason, "... could have some interesting discussion."
    - You then say that I'm "lecturing".

    Will it be better if I just ignore your question and not answer your question at all?

    If I started a thread as "lecturing", Instead of saying, "Please comment", I will say, "Just shut up and listen". But I will never do that.
    Last edited by YouKnowWho; 12-15-2011 at 06:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    What will happen when a Bagua guy fights a WC guy?

    Please comment.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io_qLYs8Ocw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h-ge...eature=related
    Those guys were fighting?

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    this is a reasonable discussion. the wing chun fighter was an inexperienced last minute replacement when another fighter pulled out. the other fighter was a much more experienced mma fighter. though the wing chun fighter did not win, kudos for 1) stepping into the ring 2) fighting using what he knows of his art.
    Last edited by fan; 12-16-2011 at 07:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    The interest thing about that WC fight was his opponent studied him in great detail and he didn't even notice it. Is there a such thing that you should hide how you are going to fight before the fighting start? If the WC guy was smart, he should jump up and down like everybody else and suddently moved in and take his opponent's head off.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1dh_...layer_embedded
    Yeah. I missed that comment the last time you posted too.

    That was interesting. I know this one guy who's form looks really good. Even looks powerful and all that but he can't fight at all. The problem with his fighting is, IMO, the same as with his form. His intent is all on what he is doing and not enough on what the other guy is doing. That's sort of what I saw in this fight clip you posted. The WC guy had a very clear idea how he was going to fight. The other guy also had a very clear idea how the WC guy was gonna fight.

    Sadly, for the WC guy, that flow of information only went one direction.

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