How do you cultivate chi?
Some have said Practicing Wing Chun SLT cultivates chi if done very slowly..
other lineages have chi gung or breath work...aka energy work?
Also how does the chi you cultivate develop your Jing?
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How do you cultivate chi?
Some have said Practicing Wing Chun SLT cultivates chi if done very slowly..
other lineages have chi gung or breath work...aka energy work?
Also how does the chi you cultivate develop your Jing?
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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thanks i will check it out!
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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slt, chi hung and a few tai chi exercises for me
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Yang Jwing Ming has a lot of books out on Chi, I suggest starting there, or Mantak Chia books.
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So, what is qi? How to cultivate qi? What is it do for Jin or force vector?
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Qi or Chi is your lifeforce your born with. It is your breathe you take each day...you accumulate chi from breathing, from exerting effort and sweating, from eating and drinking. When you jogg or fight you accumulate chi because your body requires more oxygen it takes in more to nourish the body meaning you accumulate more breathe or life energy. Your Meridian Channels have microcosmic water ways that warm when your body temperture rises...Like water they evaporate and become a mist. Mist is air or breathe thus causing more Chi.
Jin, Shen and Yi is the vehicle for which your Chi travels...Your Shen dictates if the chi is good or bad...if your shen is negative your chi will be corrupted...if your shen is happy your chi will be good. The Yi is your intention you can not move chi with out it. Just as you can not move your hand with out your Yi. So it is with chi. When you direct your Yi to move your chi it goes. When you want to use chi to hit someone it must be accompanied with Jing. With out Jing it is simply Yin and Soft power by it self has no power...Hard power by itself is too stiff and can not release. Your Chi is the relaxation with in the hard...Hard and Soft combined is powerful. An when it release the intended result is realize.
Jing Chi and Shen are the three treasures
As for Force Vectors...according to my understanding...Force is the Jing or power you expel out to your opponent...Vectors are the direction to that force...You can draw them in with a jut sau, you sink or draw them down with jum sau, you can force them away with butterfly palms, you can strike them on their left and right gate with shifting horse and punch or lop sau while shifting your central line causing their center turn. These are merely one example...my opinion of how i use it...But there are more an various different ways one may achieve them with punches or kicks or chin na...its up to you....But i think of it forwards, backwards, to the side, up and down! When you sink you breath in, When you uproot you breath out, when you pull in while stepping back you breath in. When you push out while moving forward you breath out. Side Steps also can be used to flank your opponent an capture the other two vectors...Standing Still if you will marks the place of origin or the vertex if you will...So standing still in my opinion marks the seventh vector!
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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Thanks and appreciate for sharing!
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When you train XingYi for
- cultivate Chi, you don't use force when you punch. This way you can breath slowly. When you pull your punch back, you need to use your force and inhale deeply. It's light out and heavy in. Also light exhale and deep inhale, and long exhale and short inhale.
- combat, you need to exhale and you don't have luxury to inhale. The moment that you inhale, the moment that you may expose your weekness to your opponent.
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Drink Red Bull " it gives you wings" That sound like chi to me..
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So it is...You gain or increase your chi by what you drink and eat!!!
Very interesting and like the analogy....So this practice how do you feel it moves your chi...in what way...Also the pulling back force hard...do you see this as training your jerking power or jing more?
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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Chi to me is breathing. The cultivating Chi is only to make your body strong. It's indirect to combat but not direct. The XingYi system does't have Chi Gong. The solo form training is the Chi Gong. You build your body from outside in.
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 12-26-2011 at 09:13 PM.
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Very Interesting??
So elaborate on building from the outside in?
Also is there a disadvantage to someone who does both...Build from the outside and in and inside out?
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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I don't believe you can build from inside out.
If your external body is not coordinated, your internal has nothing to coordinate with. If your hands can't coordinate with your feet, you can't coordinate your Chi with your hands but not with your feet.
It will take some time for a new student to be able to coordinate his hands with his feet. If you divide 1 move into many sub-moves.
1. Coordinate back foot with front hand.
2. Coordinate front foot with back hand.
3. Coordinate front foot with front front.
It may take you 3 month to achieve this. You then pay attention on your knee and elbow coordination. This may take another 3 months. You finally pay attention on hip and shoulder coordination. After at least 9 months, you can then pay attention on your "inside".
尚云祥解释，练拳练到一定程度，骨骼筋肉都已爽利坚实，此时功夫要向身内走，就是要沁进五脏六 腑。但这一步 很难，就要用发声来接引一下，声音由内向外，劲力由外向内，里应外合一下，功夫方能成就。
XingYi master Shang Yunxiang said, "When you have reached to certain level, your muscle and born are all strong, your Kung Fu should move from outside in and enter your internal organ. This step is very hard, you will need to use your sound to help it. The sound come from inside out, the power come from outside in. When both meet, your Kung Fu development is then completed".
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 12-26-2011 at 09:34 PM.
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Thanks for sharing very interesting indeed!
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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