Cultivating Chi

[Yoshiyahu]

How do you cultivate chi?

Some have said Practicing Wing Chun SLT cultivates chi if done very slowly..

other lineages have chi gung or breath work...aka energy work?


Also how does the chi you cultivate develop your Jing?

[Hendrik]

How do you cultivate chi?

Some have said Practicing Wing Chun SLT cultivates chi if done very slowly..

other lineages have chi gung or breath work...aka energy work?


Also how does the chi you cultivate develop your Jing?

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[Yoshiyahu]

take a look at my playing with 5 layers clip.

everything you ask here is in it.

thanks i will check it out!

[mjw]

slt, chi hung and a few tai chi exercises for me

[Robinhood]

Yang Jwing Ming has a lot of books out on Chi, I suggest starting there, or Mantak Chia books.

[Hendrik]

So, what is qi? How to cultivate qi? What is it do for Jin or force vector?

[YouKnowWho]

How do you cultivate chi?

When you train XingYi for

- cultivate Chi, you don't use force when you punch. This way you can breath slowly. When you pull your punch back, you need to use your force and inhale deeply. It's light out and heavy in. Also light exhale and deep inhale, and long exhale and short inhale.

- combat, you need to exhale and you don't have luxury to inhale. The moment that you inhale, the moment that you may expose your weekness to your opponent.

[stonecrusher69]

How do you cultivate chi?

Some have said Practicing Wing Chun SLT cultivates chi if done very slowly..

other lineages have chi gung or breath work...aka energy work?


Also how does the chi you cultivate develop your Jing?

Drink Red Bull " it gives you wings" That sound like chi to me..

[Yoshiyahu]

Drink Red Bull " it gives you wings" That sound like chi to me..

So it is...You gain or increase your chi by what you drink and eat!!!

When you train XingYi for

- cultivate Chi, you don't use force when you punch. This way you can breath slowly. When you pull your punch back, you need to use your force and inhale deeply. It's light out and heavy in. Also light exhale and deep inhale, and long exhale and short inhale.

- combat, you need to exhale and you don't have luxury to inhale. The moment that you inhale, the moment that you may expose your weekness to your opponent.

Very interesting and like the analogy....So this practice how do you feel it moves your chi...in what way...Also the pulling back force hard...do you see this as training your jerking power or jing more?

[YouKnowWho]

Very interesting and like the analogy....So this practice how do you feel it moves your chi...in what way...Also the pulling back force hard...do you see this as training your jerking power or jing more?

Chi to me is breathing. The cultivating Chi is only to make your body strong. It's indirect to combat but not direct. The XingYi system does't have Chi Gong. The solo form training is the Chi Gong. You build your body from outside in.

[Yoshiyahu]

Chi to me is breathing. The cultivating Chi is only to make your body strong. It's indirect to combat but not direct. The XingYi system does't have Chi Gong. The solo form training is the Chi Gong. You build your body from outside in.

Very Interesting??


So elaborate on building from the outside in?

Also is there a disadvantage to someone who does both...Build from the outside and in and inside out?

[YouKnowWho]

Very Interesting??

So elaborate on building from the outside in?

Also is there a disadvantage to someone who does both...Build from the outside and in and inside out?

I don't believe you can build from inside out.

If your external body is not coordinated, your internal has nothing to coordinate with. If your hands can't coordinate with your feet, you can't coordinate your Chi with your hands but not with your feet.

It will take some time for a new student to be able to coordinate his hands with his feet. If you divide 1 move into many sub-moves.

1. Coordinate back foot with front hand.
2. Coordinate front foot with back hand.
3. Coordinate front foot with front front.

It may take you 3 month to achieve this. You then pay attention on your knee and elbow coordination. This may take another 3 months. You finally pay attention on hip and shoulder coordination. After at least 9 months, you can then pay attention on your "inside".

尚云祥解释，练拳练到一定程度，骨骼筋肉都已爽利坚实，此时功夫要向身内走，就是要沁进五脏六 腑。但这一步 很难，就要用发声来接引一下，声音由内向外，劲力由外向内，里应外合一下，功夫方能成就。

XingYi master Shang Yunxiang said, "When you have reached to certain level, your muscle and born are all strong, your Kung Fu should move from outside in and enter your internal organ. This step is very hard, you will need to use your sound to help it. The sound come from inside out, the power come from outside in. When both meet, your Kung Fu development is then completed".

[Phil Redmond]

How do you cultivate chi?

Some have said Practicing Wing Chun SLT cultivates chi if done very slowly..

other lineages have chi gung or breath work...aka energy work?


Also how does the chi you cultivate develop your Jing?

Which Chi/Qi? There are 8 types of Chi in TCM.

[Phil Redmond]

The 8 types of Chi. http://www.wingchunkwoon.com/accu.asp

btw, there is a mistake in the Horary clock that needs to be corrected. I'm having another website done and it will be corrected..
scroll down to see the 8 chi

[Yoshiyahu]

Yes we do natural breath too. But also we practice a short breath that comes out through the nose...Upon impact you release. This is practiced during training, chi sau, sparring, form practice, sup yee san sik and other training methods. The more you practice it the more it becomes second nature. I utilize both natural breath and the wing chun breath. When fatigued breath natural. When energized use the breath. This one thing Sifu said. But it just dependant on you...your not gonna be striking and using that breath 100% of the time. Same way as your not going to be stepping or using your waist to with a punch 100% of the time. But I agree the majority of the time you breath natural...

I was taught to breathe naturally...
Push - breath out, pull breath - in, etc... This is new idea to me...
Is this natural process or do you developed it consciously? Is it from ving tsun or tai chi...?


Jox,

Hmmm very good I like your details and explanation...very good indeed

Keep it simple. Keep it natural.

Understand that true Yi does not come from intellectualising the concept. Learn to switch the brain off and turn on your heart/instinct on. Then you will lead your Qi. All these Yin Yang question becomes self answering because you will also understand the Yin and Yang nature of Qi.

We will use a simple punch as a training example: learn to punch with less force, more Yi and more power penetration.

In the beginning try the punch in a controlled enviroment; punch your training partner, let him feel and describe to you the effect of your punch. Experiment with your Yi until you get the desired result. Of course, you will also have to let the opponent punch you too, so you can help him develop. A good punch is one that seems only like a tap, but the receiver should feel like being hit by an iron ball (or as one of the guys I tapped yesterday at a Kung Fu gathering describes, "feels like being hit by a log").

Once you get decent result, of course test in out with someone you don't normally train with during sparring.

And of course, in a real fight, don't be obscessed with techniques, focus on destroying the guy and let your habits win your fight.

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You must continue to test your progress on partners and opponents; you don't want to waste years of training (like many internal people do) chasing things that does not work.

Another example: I didn't learn to take hits by imagining or reading; I learn to take hits by getting hit.