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    is the famous buddhist god guan yin a male or female?

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    Even though in many representation it looks more female then male Guan Yin does not have a well defined "sex", in simple it's both

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    It also depends on the dynasty. Earlier Guan Yin's were clearly male but he/she got feminized through the ages. In current Chinese culture Guan Yin is definitely a she but when Buddism was just hitting China (5th century? Just off the top of my head) Guan Yin was more clearly male. I wish I could remember which museum I saw the transition at. There was a display of Guan Yin's from various dynasties stretching about 7 or 8 hundred years and you could really see the transition.

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    Is Either/Neither.
    Is a god.
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    She may become a buddha and go to the western extreme peace place.

    But she decided to come back or stay in this earthly world and help people to enter the buddhahood.

    so she kept being reincarnated into this world.

    in some lives, she is she.

    in some other lives, he is he.

    etc etc.


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    avatar or last air bender borrowed her ideas.

    in some lives, avatar was a guy

    in some lives, avatar was a girl.

    in the end

    avatar is avatar or omnipresence or a whole or both male and female

    etc etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    Is a god.
    No.

    Bodhisattva =/= a god

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    Avalokiteshvara Bodhisattva, the embodiment of compassion, is a male bodhisattva according to the Sanskrit Buddhist scripture.

    When Buddhism first spread to China, Avalokiteshvara was depicted as a male bodhisattva. His name was translated as "guan yin", [the lord who] observes sounds.

    Some have speculate that Chinese view compassion as a female quality and hence Guan yin became female to be more in tune with chinese's view of compassion.

    The change was gradual and the view that Guanyin was a female bodhisattva probably became prevalent due to the popularity of various incarnations of guanyin as savior for women and children. One of the most popular one is the white robe guanyin. I used to recite her sutra whenever I was in trouble and needed help when I was little.

    In the Buddhist sutra, it was stated that Avalokiteshvara would take whatever form most suitable to render assistance or appear in the form most receptive by the audience to achieve the necessary results. It would seem the female form of bodhisattva of compassion was the most suitable one for the Chinese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wenshu View Post
    No.

    Bodhisattva =/= a god
    Yes.

    The Compassionate Regarder of the Cries of the World is a god/dess.

    Not my god, perhaps not yours, but somebodies.
    Try to be tolerant of others beliefs will you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    Yes.

    The Compassionate Regarder of the Cries of the World is a god/dess.

    Not my god, perhaps not yours, but somebodies.
    Try to be tolerant of others beliefs will you.
    Look, I don't come down to your church and try to tell you how to oppress women and homosexuals. So don't try to lecture me about mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wenshu View Post
    Look, I don't come down to your church and try to tell you how to oppress women and homosexuals. So don't try to lecture me about mine.
    This is your church?
    lol.

    (as an aside, I don't do church, I"m a gnostic deist and I oppose organized religion and all it represents as falseness...so, there you have it.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    This is your church?
    No, I became a teetotaling vegetarian because it makes me popular at parties.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R. Brown View Post
    This is not a veiled request for compliments

    The short story is I did 325# for one set of 1 rep.

    1) Does this sound gifted, or just lucky?

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    teetotaling vegetarian

    Quote Originally Posted by wenshu View Post
    No, I became a teetotaling vegetarian because it makes me popular at parties.
    You too, huh?
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    I find that a diet that is more rich and towards vegetarian goodies will do a lot of things for you. Especially as I age! More and more food with a face just isn't making it to my plate anymore.

    Still, as someone who practices Chan, I'll eat what I can afford and what is available and what is given me. It's sustenance after all.
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    Oysters don't have faces

    "The time has come," the Walrus said,
    "To talk of many things:
    Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
    Of cabbages--and kings--
    And why the sea is boiling hot--
    And whether pigs have wings."
    The fad of flexitarianism.
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