Mantis and Superman Punch

[MeiHuaBR]

Okay guys, first thread in the forum. These days I was analysing some moves from Beng Bu and notice
d something. A ressemble between a move from the most famous mantis form and a MMA famous one.

This is me doing the Beng Bu:
http://youtu.be/XbxR1F3jEGw

The flying punch at 00:10 (sorry, I don't know the chinese name for this)

This is the Superman Punch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CIKOxf6_gM

Although there's some mechanical differences, looks like 2 kinds of moves that uses the momentum to generate power. One through a running and other using the leg.

By no means I want to discuss which is better. But I thought it was great two similars moves with similar mechanics.

Any thoughts?

[YouKnowWho]

Some people like to say, "My style does it differently". I prefer to say, "My styles does it similarly". If you always look at the "similarity" instead of the "difference", not only you have positive attitude, you will make more friends instead of enemies through your life time.

[Yao Sing]

CMA doesn't work in MMA, just ask the MMA experts. You have to call it something else, like Superman Punch, then it will work.

[YouKnowWho]

CMA doesn't work in MMA, just ask the MMA experts. You have to call it something else, like Superman Punch, then it will work.

When I use the term 扣(Kou) in discussion, non-TCMA guys always said, "It has never been seen in UFC, so it must be a low successful rate move." Since then I always called it "Chinese single leg", nobody ever wants to argue with me after that.

When I talk about Chinese Kung training, none-TCMA guys will say, "It's BS." When I talk about heavy bag training, they leave me alone.

[mooyingmantis]

Okay guys, first thread in the forum. These days I was analysing some moves from Beng Bu and notice
d something. A ressemble between a move from the most famous mantis form and a MMA famous one.

This is me doing the Beng Bu:
http://youtu.be/XbxR1F3jEGw

The flying punch at 00:10 (sorry, I don't know the chinese name for this)

This is the Superman Punch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CIKOxf6_gM

Although there's some mechanical differences, looks like 2 kinds of moves that uses the momentum to generate power. One through a running and other using the leg.

By no means I want to discuss which is better. But I thought it was great two similars moves with similar mechanics.

Any thoughts?

Are you talking about the right grab/left reverse punch with a simultaneous right knee lift?

I just had my students drill that move tonight in class. It is a nice move!

BTW, your form looked good!

[-N-]

Same concepts. With the Mantis approach including its typical elements of running footwork and additional control.

[sanjuro_ronin]

First time I ever saw it was in ITF TKD.

[Jimbo]

First time I ever saw it was in ITF TKD.

+1.

I also remember it from old(er)-style TKD, and always thought of it as coming from there. The first time I saw the "superman punch" was back in the 1970s, and remembered it as called, in English, the jump-up punch.

[Chadderz]

I didn't see anything really resembling a Superman punch,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_punch

Although I'm not denying that it does happen in other martial arts, I'm just saying I didn't see you pull it off.

The purpose of the Superman punch, or กระโดดชก in thai, is to fake a kick whilst in the air, leaving the face exposed.

[Dragonzbane76]

There is nothing new on this earth. Cavemen were probably beating each other up with the same punch.