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    I'd prefer to handle a fighter with a knife, because I know he'll have some sort of style or method. A thoughtful approach, ergo predictable.

    Crackhead? Yeah... good luck figuring out his attack plan.
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    So I should spend hours each day getting cauliflower ears and sprained joints gaining high level sport fighting skill on the chance I might have to fight off a crackhead mugger someday?
    When seconds count the cops are only minutes away!

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    Sorry, sometimes I forget you guys have that special secret internal sauce where people throw themselves and you don't have to do anything except collect tuition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yao Sing View Post
    So I should spend hours each day getting cauliflower ears and sprained joints gaining high level sport fighting skill on the chance I might have to fight off a crackhead mugger someday?
    You'll be great at disarming people who fight exactly like you do.
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
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    "You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"

    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    I'd prefer to handle a fighter with a knife, because I know he'll have some sort of style or method. A thoughtful approach, ergo predictable
    Thoughtful? Have you ever seen a real knife attack?

    The most thoughtful it's going to be is how he can have the blade and stick you with it before you even know he has it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peaceful Orchid View Post
    Thoughtful? Have you ever seen a real knife attack?

    The most thoughtful it's going to be is how he can have the blade and stick you with it before you even know he has it.
    Did you read the post? Methinks you didn't...
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
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    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
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    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
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    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

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    BTW, I carry a Spyderco all the time, sometimes wear a neckknife and carry a 9mm.
    When seconds count the cops are only minutes away!

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    Sorry, sometimes I forget you guys have that special secret internal sauce where people throw themselves and you don't have to do anything except collect tuition.

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    A lot of folks I know are actually jumping on the conceal carry bandwagon...

    Knife, meet gun...
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    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
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    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
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    "You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"

    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Did you read the post? Methinks you didn't...
    Yeah, I read it. What type of thoughtful attack plan do you think he's going to have? And what makes you think some crack or meth head isn't going to be using a weapon against you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peaceful Orchid View Post
    Yeah, I read it. What type of thoughtful attack plan do you think he's going to have? And what makes you think some crack or meth head isn't going to be using a weapon against you?
    No, no you didn't...
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
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    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
    ~ Joe Lewis

    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
    ~ Author unknown

    "You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"

    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    A lot of folks I know are actually jumping on the conceal carry bandwagon...

    Knife, meet gun...
    That and the Castle Doctrine law here in Florida is making criminal violence against the general public extremely difficult.
    When seconds count the cops are only minutes away!

    Quote Originally Posted by wenshu View Post
    Sorry, sometimes I forget you guys have that special secret internal sauce where people throw themselves and you don't have to do anything except collect tuition.

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    Basic Chin Na I learned in Kenpo over 30 years ago. This guy had 3 months Aikido.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r90w-...eature=related

    That's what regular people can expect. There are quite a few examples out there of people with little to no skill defending themselves. Certainly don't need to be a UFC champ to be successful.
    When seconds count the cops are only minutes away!

    Quote Originally Posted by wenshu View Post
    Sorry, sometimes I forget you guys have that special secret internal sauce where people throw themselves and you don't have to do anything except collect tuition.

  12. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    No, no you didn't...
    Yep here's what you said. Clear as day.

    "I'd prefer to handle a fighter with a knife, because I know he'll have some sort of style or method. A thoughtful approach, ergo predictable.

    Crackhead? Yeah... good luck figuring out his attack plan. "



    Looks like you think a fighter with a knife is easier to handle that a crackhead.

  13. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Yao Sing View Post
    Basic Chin Na I learned in Kenpo over 30 years ago. This guy had 3 months Aikido.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r90w-...eature=related

    That's what regular people can expect. There are quite a few examples out there of people with little to no skill defending themselves. Certainly don't need to be a UFC champ to be successful.

    You'll get no argument from me on that one. He focused on the weapon, grabbed it and took it away. That's exactly what he should have done. Notice there was no submission or attempted break, simply a manipulation of the weapon hand and taking the weapon away. Trying to finish that move into a submission/break with or without a weapon and he'd be dead or messed up.


    I never said you need to have UFC level skills to be successful. What I said was attempting standing submission rarely works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peaceful Orchid View Post
    Yep here's what you said. Clear as day.

    "I'd prefer to handle a fighter with a knife, because I know he'll have some sort of style or method. A thoughtful approach, ergo predictable.

    Crackhead? Yeah... good luck figuring out his attack plan. "



    Looks like you think a fighter with a knife is easier to handle that a crackhead.
    Yeah... a trained fighter is predictable. VERY predictable.
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
    ~ Mark Twain

    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
    ~ Joe Lewis

    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
    ~ Author unknown

    "You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"

    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

  15. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Yeah... a trained fighter is predictable. VERY predictable.
    So you'd rather fight a trained fighter with a blade rather than an unarmed crack head.

    OK, good luck with that one.

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