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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Orr View Post
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    Question 5 in my Q & A series - Where is Tan, Bong Sau in Sparring

    best Alan
    i think your brand of WC is more like Street Boxing...But its cool. I think a person really skilled at blocks would look similiar to what you are doing. Ne Way I see alot of compromise of WC techniques that have you using the covering as your main form of defense instead of bridging for control.
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    i think your brand of WC is more like Street Boxing...But its cool. I think a person really skilled at blocks would look similiar to what you are doing. Ne Way I see alot of compromise of WC techniques that have you using the covering as your main form of defense instead of bridging for control.

    What you see is your opinion and that is cool with me. But you don't understand the progression or full principle behind what we do. Of course we use bridging. Any time we touch we have a bridge, it just depends on who has control of it.

    Compromise? not sure why you even think that. Street boxing - yes wing chun is hong kong street fighting right? or it used to be before people stopping fighting and made it into drills and demo's of fighting.

    My main form of defence - I showed a small clip - its not the whole system or an answer to the problem. You hold on too hard. Also we are not blocking. We have 3 stages in controlling and defending hard pressure blocking is the last and its not a hand block as you may see it. More clips to come.

    Why not post some of what you do under hard pressure and also post some hard sparring showing it?

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    correction....When I said blocks...i meant to qoute 52 blocks my bad...typing on the fly an miss some stuff...also what i meant by street boxing is basic techniques boxers use in the streets...I didnt mean street fighting...thats a whole nother animal all together...Im not saying what you do is bad or wrong. Just its like complete foreign to wing chun in my opinion. The principles may be similar but the excution of those principles is done as Hendrik would say from a different engine. The engine and vehicle you use to apply the WC principles is different than street fighting wing chun...


    You are right...thats a great idea about posting...I will soon one day been thinking about it...


    I know the way i intrepret wing chun most westerners on the forums will disagree because its not what their use too...


    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Orr View Post
    What you see is your opinion and that is cool with me. But you don't understand the progression or full principle behind what we do. Of course we use bridging. Any time we touch we have a bridge, it just depends on who has control of it.

    Compromise? not sure why you even think that. Street boxing - yes wing chun is hong kong street fighting right? or it used to be before people stopping fighting and made it into drills and demo's of fighting.

    My main form of defence - I showed a small clip - its not the whole system or an answer to the problem. You hold on too hard. Also we are not blocking. We have 3 stages in controlling and defending hard pressure blocking is the last and its not a hand block as you may see it. More clips to come.

    Why not post some of what you do under hard pressure and also post some hard sparring showing it?
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    correction....When I said blocks...i meant to qoute 52 blocks my bad...typing on the fly an miss some stuff...also what i meant by street boxing is basic techniques boxers use in the streets...I didnt mean street fighting...thats a whole nother animal all together...Im not saying what you do is bad or wrong. Just its like complete foreign to wing chun in my opinion. The principles may be similar but the excution of those principles is done as Hendrik would say from a different engine. The engine and vehicle you use to apply the WC principles is different than street fighting wing chun...


    You are right...thats a great idea about posting...I will soon one day been thinking about it...


    I know the way i intrepret wing chun most westerners on the forums will disagree because its not what their use too...

    Yes I agree, my wing chun is different. But in terms of street fighting - What I am showing works in both, but on the street I have more tools as well. These are very small clips, so again don't hang on what I say it all depends on many things.

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