Need Defense/counterattack advice

[luismtzr]

Hello Guys;

i need defense/counterattack advice from you guys; here's the story:

I'm a student at a Kung Fu School (for over a year); and a couple a weeks ago a new student arrived; and as usual we always welcome new students and try to help them in any way to accelerate the learning process; but in this case; this student came from a Taekwondo school and according to him; he is a black belt (Taekwondo); so anyways; we usually do sparring 2 times a week; and this guy is very good with high kicks and is kicking the shxxit out of other students, i give him a good fight but i sometimes i can't avoid his taekwondo high kicks; and the problem is that he is very arrogant and ****y with the rest of the class; and i tought that it was just me noticing that but i was right; one day i was taking a sh!t at the academy (he didn't know that i was there) and he entered the restroom with some other guy and started talking trash about other students and saying that he was the best; and i tried to ignore that but he started beating the youg and newer students and that makes me mad.

so what would be the best defense and counterattack with Taekwondo style?

Thanks

[Lucas]

is he a TKD fighter that drops his hands a lot? some do, depends on what style. if so, move in fast and close and pop him in the nose, dont let him use long range kicks. you can also get in close and clinch him and sweep him. dont fight his fight. he wants a long to medium range fight

[LivingArt]

if you're feeling daring try and swing down and under his kick while stepping into his mid/close range. For the purpose of getting on the less dangerous side and close in his space so you could just shove him off balance and take control of him.

[ShaolinDan]

The trick is just learning to see those high kicks coming. (they're tough, catch me all the time ) Once you can see it, there's a multitude of options...including just running forward. Keep sparring with him. And try to suppress your ego/pride...it's part of your training (or part of mine anyway )

[luismtzr]

The trick is just learning to see those high kicks coming. (they're tough, catch me all the time ) Once you can see it, there's a multitude of options...including just running forward. Keep sparring with him. And try to suppress your ego/pride...it's part of your training (or part of mine anyway )

Thanks ShaolinDan; you are right; those kicks are tough; i'll keep sparring with him until i can get a better sense of counterattack (ofcourse also with the advice from all of you guys); at the end it will be a new fighting lesson to learn.

I personally think that he doesn't understand very well the meaning and purpose of the martial arts and the people that practice; you don't use it to hurt people or to feel superior; if you a re a good fighter you need to be humble and modest; at least that's what our sifu teach us.

[ShaolinDan]

Most of the 'show-offs' don't last long...usually don't get the special treatment they seem to want. Those who stick around can turn out to be great students/training partners once they realize they really want to learn what's being taught.

[luismtzr]

is he a TKD fighter that drops his hands a lot? some do, depends on what style. if so, move in fast and close and pop him in the nose, dont let him use long range kicks. you can also get in close and clinch him and sweep him. dont fight his fight. he wants a long to medium range fight

Thanks for the advice; i have sweeped him a couple of times; and he's kind of waiting for that now.

if you're feeling daring try and swing down and under his kick while stepping into his mid/close range. For the purpose of getting on the less dangerous side and close in his space so you could just shove him off balance and take control of him.

i will try that; but the thing is that we are not permitted to hit (point sparring) once he is down.

[RenDaHai]

You need to learn to stop high kicks hard;

Blocking; Try to block with two hands simultaneously. So as for example he roundhouses to your head, shield your head with one hand, then use the other hand to slap his leg as high up the leg as possible, preferably the knee. So the first hand blocks and impacts the leg, the second hand adds a slap, and both push downwards. If he is wearing shin guards you can try using two forearms hammering down on the shin. when you use both it will not just block his leg, but reflect it and cause him to lose some stability which gives you a chance to counter. Use your hands together, like wielding a two handed weapon. Double hammer. With good timing it is possible to have one hand land right on the end of his toes which will over extend his foot and hurt him a little, while the other hand hammers into his shin. Remember to twist your waist into his kick as you use the double hammer. You can do this without stepping. Actually strike downwards, don't just block.

Catching; The best thing to do is not to try and pick it out of the air, but rather to block it and try to trap it on its way back. Typically use one vertical arm and one horizontal arm. The vertical arm blocks the kick, the horizontal arm is placed below to trap the leg as it returns. One you have his leg the rules of sparring will limit your counters, but you will have a good chance to throw. Try lifting his leg as high as you can then kick the other leg. Like an 'L' shape guard at the side of your body.

What kind of kicks do you have most trouble with?

[luismtzr]

You need to learn to stop high kicks hard;

Blocking; Try to block with two hands simultaneously. So as for example he roundhouses to your head, shield your head with one hand, then use the other hand to slap his leg as high up the leg as possible, preferably the knee. So the first hand blocks and impacts the leg, the second hand adds a slap, and both push downwards. If he is wearing shin guards you can try using two forearms hammering down on the shin. when you use both it will not just block his leg, but reflect it and cause him to lose some stability which gives you a chance to counter. Use your hands together, like wielding a two handed weapon. Double hammer. With good timing it is possible to have one hand land right on the end of his toes which will over extend his foot and hurt him a little, while the other hand hammers into his shin. Remember to twist your waist into his kick as you use the double hammer. You can do this without stepping. Actually strike downwards, don't just block.

Catching; The best thing to do is not to try and pick it out of the air, but rather to block it and try to trap it on its way back. Typically use one vertical arm and one horizontal arm. The vertical arm blocks the kick, the horizontal arm is placed below to trap the leg as it returns. One you have his leg the rules of sparring will limit your counters, but you will have a good chance to throw. Try lifting his leg as high as you can then kick the other leg. Like an 'L' shape guard at the side of your body.

What kind of kicks do you have most trouble with?

i have trouble with his roundhouse and his hook kick; too fast sometimes to catch

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

If you get close, and do the opening move of this form, backwards, it defeats their entire style

0:13 down to 0:08 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBvF6r6DOvc

The trick is to get in on the inside of their shoulders as you enter, then rise above them and come down on the outside of them as you go chest to chest. apply pressure with your chest to keep their center disconnected (you want their upper body behind their dantien). A bit of sudden force may be needed to jar them back off center. Once you have that, you have control of their upper body.

Now that you have that initial entry, dominating he fight is just a matter of maintaining contact, and walking into them.

If they try to turn away from you, follow. If they try to fade to the side, circle into them (like a tight Bagua walk).

Since you have the dominate position, and they are compromised, you will be one step ahead of them. It's only a matter of time before you feel the right mix of disconnection and loss of balance in them. When that happens, blast in hard using a medium bow stance between their legs to initiate the take down and run them over.

If you have a guy like this to play with, savor the opportunity. He's giving you the opportunity to learn how to nullify an entire art with one simple move.

I would encourage his arrogance, then dump him every time I had the chance wit this one.

My favorite part is the look on their face the moment they realize that are totally helpless and about to go down. since you are so close, you can actually hear that little "Gasp" of fear. In their breath. That moment is the exact second to pour on the power and bring them down.

[lance]

Hello Guys;

i need defense/counterattack advice from you guys; here's the story:

I'm a student at a Kung Fu School (for over a year); and a couple a weeks ago a new student arrived; and as usual we always welcome new students and try to help them in any way to accelerate the learning process; but in this case; this student came from a Taekwondo school and according to him; he is a black belt (Taekwondo); so anyways; we usually do sparring 2 times a week; and this guy is very good with high kicks and is kicking the shxxit out of other students, i give him a good fight but i sometimes i can't avoid his taekwondo high kicks; and the problem is that he is very arrogant and ****y with the rest of the class; and i tought that it was just me noticing that but i was right; one day i was taking a sh!t at the academy (he didn't know that i was there) and he entered the restroom with some other guy and started talking trash about other students and saying that he was the best; and i tried to ignore that but he started beating the youg and newer students and that makes me mad.


so what would be the best defense and counterattack with Taekwondo style?

Thanks

What that TKD guy is telling you is that TKD is alot better than kung fu , and
he ' s the best , better tell your kung fu sifu about this situation , and what style of kung fu are you learning anyway ? TKD you have to watch out for the kicks and when you have the chance , move in fast . Once they feel that you ' re better than them , they get intimitated , and they use more advance TKD techniques , against the people who are beating the **** out of them .

Kung fu does have defense and counterattack against kicks , I don ' t know what style of kung fu you ' re learning or what level of kung fu you ' re in so I can ' t give you anymore advices .

[Dragonzbane76]

@ lance......


Your such a troll

[luismtzr]

Ok Guys;

here's an update:
we had continuous point sparring yesterday; and luckily we were the second match of the night; so we were not tired and i had the opportunity to do what i was training from your advice, it wasn't that easy but all pieces started to fall in position, first i tried the sweep; i didnt' sweeped hard enough so i just hitted the leg but it did the job; he loosed balance and he went down (no points but that was ok), then i started to teased him so he can start kicking those high kicks; (he landed some side kicks) and viola; he started with the high kicking; so i rushed a couple of times and use some of my wing chun exp and hit him in the head and stomach(no points to punch in the face but who cares); so he started to see that i was rushing and ofcourse he was waiting for that; so i tried some back kicks and finally one landed right there in the family jewels (no points either but the message was delivered ); he was kind of frustated and the sifu stopped the match and sent me to do some push ups; this guy didn't spar for like 20 min and then he went back with some other guy.

after we finished class; i asked him if he was ok and that i was sorry for the kick in the nuts; he said that it was a good match; then i just told him that he needs to stop been an a$$ hole in class; otherwise everyone else would start looking for ways to hurt him; he just pulled his shoulders up and walked away, so i guess he will continue to be a d.i.ck. with the other students.

Anyways the message was delivered and let's see what is his reaction in the next couple of days.

Thanks everyone for all your advice; i tried just some of them because it's hard and it takes a lot of practice (i practiced the counterattack just the weekend with some friend at my house); i will continue to practice the graplin and the takedowns, i'll keep you posted.

Thanks again

[Lucas]

good deal! just keep being a good example and perhaps he will improve his attitude after some time.

[lance]

@ lance......


Your such a troll

Well , atleast I ' m trying to help this guy out , what about you ?