Im simply saying real skill derives from strength, power, speed, flexibility, timing, cooridation, stamina and accuracy and preceision.
With out the following how will you be able to apply any principles, techniques or centerline theory against an opponent who possess more power, strength, flexibility, accuracy, precision, stamina and cooridation. If they can read you and counter you better than you can them your lost mate....Its not about WC or about what style you do. its about fighting!
Originally Posted by
JPinAZ
Is that a fact or just your opinion? You state it as if it's fact and that you know so much about all the 10's or 100's of thousands of WC practitioners all over the world, so where is your proof or evidence, or are you just talking out your yahu as usual?
No one argues that stregth and speed help, but the above thinking is proof of someone only thinking of WC fighting as mearly techniques and attributes. IMO, this is very narrow view and missing the boat on what WCK is all about.
I agree with wingchunIan, you shold quit WC and just start taking steroids if you believe the above is what WCK is all about. But then, I'm really starting to believe you don't actually train WCK much (or with anyone good), or you wouldn't talk like you do
what if your opponent who doesn't do wing chun has more accuracy, precision and cooridation at controlling angles than you do. What if he posses more power and strength than you do has better timing than you so he can counter your short burst and reidrect your disrubtion and striking. Again Someone who is more skilled will win. it dont matter what style you do. If two people from the same style have the techniques and principles down evenly...who usually wins? The weaker opponent or the stronger opponent?
Originally Posted by
wingchunIan
If you truly believe that, then stop training WC and start taking steroids and lifting heavy weights instead.
The one thing BJJ showed when UFC first started was that skill and technique can overcome a much larger and stronger opponent. Unfortunately in WC many people mistake skill for fancy hand techniques when in reality the true skill is creating and using angles, maintaining distance, using short sharp bursts of energy to control and disrupt, and delivering shock to the jic seen through fast relaxed strikes. All of which are hard to see and even harder to do.
Wayfaring and SanJuro are right!!!!
Originally Posted by
Wayfaring
On the importance of conditioning I like the wrestling philosophy:
"Conditioning is the greatest hold". Karl Gotch - catch wrestler.
The idea of the weak overcoming the strong, the small overcoming the large, the technically trained overcoming the athlete is the holy grail of all martial arts.
While this can be accomplished, the disparity and mismatch that it's available to overcome is many times less than martial artists would like to believe. And when it does happen many times it's a conditioned smaller athlete overcoming a non-conditioned or lesser conditioned larger person.
Technique is important. Conditioning is important too. I like the viewpoint of viewing conditioning as your greatest technique. I think it's healthy from not only a realistic practical application perspective but also good from a longevity perspective. I want to train hard athletically well into my latter years. Will I be able to compete older against younger athletes? I can sure try. And I can sure surprise them too.
Originally Posted by
sanjuro_ronin
One can't put a degree of importance over the various attributes, ALL are crucial and all need to be developed to their highest potential, there is not one that is more than any other.
The best fighter is the one that has developed his speed, strength, skill and conditioning to its highest degree.
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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