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  1. 03-12-2012, 04:57 PM #1
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    Yuen Kay San Wing Chun

    My Teacher learn WC from a guy named Robert Lee McField. Now McField Gung Fu is more christian faith based and not so much of emphasis on the fighting as it was when my Sifu first learn. But yet and still many of the techniques and training methods are the same. Just the intensity is not as extreme.

    Video 1 will detail many of the things that I learn as a teenager when i first started WC in highschool. Only the way my sidai learn was alot harder and more aggressive!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSkHNxuyWkQ

    Simulated Table gor sau(light intensity) Time Stamp 0:21, 0:29

    Blind Fold Chi Sau Time Stamp 0:36 (My Sidai and I would spar with out contact)

    Sup Yee San Sik Time Stamp 1:13, 1:41

    Bil Gee Time Stamp 2:11

    Light Chi Sau on wide beam Time Stamp 2:25 (My Sidai and I sparred on narrow beam)

    Chum Kiu Time Stamp 2:41

    One handed San Shou freestyle Time Stamp 2:54


    Video 2 shows more of the same. Blind fold chi sau, simulated table chi sau or table gor sau, chum kiu partner punching etc.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcldT...eature=related



    We learned and practiced with a little more intensity...mostly because at the time when we were learning the emphasis was on fighting, aggression, and destroying your opponent. Thats how I learn from my Sifu. His Sifu is no longer teaching it that way. He had a change of heart and felt the need to add peace and love and christianity into it as he got older and wiser. i still enjoy the harder version though!
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    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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  2. 03-12-2012, 05:23 PM #2
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    well, this explains a lot...
    What chi sau is, or isn't, or is, or wait, what is it..: http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...2&postcount=90
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  3. 03-12-2012, 05:46 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPinAZ View Post
    well, this explains a lot...
    Thanks buddy glad to hear it...I meant to show the time stamp of partner punching...but it was in the background an my computer frooze for a second!
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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  4. 03-12-2012, 11:53 PM #4
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    You aren't really promoting this stuff as good are you? This is all a joke right?
    I saw the 'partner punching'/One handed San Shou freestyle you mention and it looks just as bad as kung fu stan's applications of punch defense. Sorry, but this clip has nothing to do with real fighting and has nothing to do with WCK.
    I hope they have very strong faith at that school, because they will need it if they think what they are doing actually works, because it won't.

    Please don't tell me you also believe this is a real good example of someone busting out 150 pushups in 60 seconds to...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2CxG...eature=related
    Last edited by JPinAZ; 03-12-2012 at 11:58 PM.
    What chi sau is, or isn't, or is, or wait, what is it..: http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...2&postcount=90
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  5. 03-13-2012, 10:35 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPinAZ View Post
    You aren't really promoting this stuff as good are you? Please don't tell me you also believe this is a real good example of someone busting out 150 pushups in 60 seconds to...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2CxG...eature=related
    Looks like someone having an epileptic seizure....
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  6. 03-13-2012, 01:28 PM #6
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    Well one hand san shou is different than partner punching...its not the same animal.

    As for the push ups. I never learn that when i practiced...That something New mcfield added after he left saint louis an went to raytown. Thats not even a full push up. But ne way i dont quite No the reasoning behind that way of doing it...Unless they do regular push ups to compliment the flutter pumps they are doing i dont see how it could be useful. But hey im not a critic. Because the guy is way stronger than I am. So if it works for him so be it.

    As for the one handed San Shou. Well now its very useful. i discovered early on in high school when i first started how useful it was. We would defend so much with one hand until arms were on fire and we could barely hold them up that we became quicker and more accurate with blocking. At that time I was able to block attacks from three guys really trying to pepper my chest. I remember one time some friends of mines ambush me. an tried to see if they could land some blows on me. I didnt find out until weeks later. They were really trying to hit me. One guy was so pi$$ed he couldnt hit me he held a grudge.

    One hand san shou freestyle improves alot of things. Its a different range other than chi sau.

    From chi sau you learn how to deal with connections, sensitivity is increased by feeling your opponents movement and reacting, you learn how to turn off force from what you feel. How to manipulate and or control your opponents bridge and so much more...

    But the non-wing chun guy aint gonna bridge with you. he is going to stick and move an seek an opening to tag you in the jaw. Thats where san shou freestyle defense comes in at. You learn how to read strikes in the beginning. We started off with stationary upagainst the wall or in a corner so you cant go any where


    Since we start off with Siu Lien Tao and Ma We learn techniques primarily from one hand first. So we can defend with one hand. If you can defend against two hands with one hand that means you always have a hand free to strike with. furthermore it ehnaches your hand techniques and prinicples so when you do utilzie both hands to defend your center line will be impentrable by those who do not know how to open doors.

    But again your trainijng is different. We train to fight thugs in the streets. You train to fight other WC guys probably. I dont know or maybe mma guys.

    AS for Stans Punch defense application i will have to look at that video again to see what you mean...But look at Stans video of SLT...it demostrates one handed defense again certain attacks!

    Quote Originally Posted by JPinAZ View Post
    You aren't really promoting this stuff as good are you? This is all a joke right?
    I saw the 'partner punching'/One handed San Shou freestyle you mention and it looks just as bad as kung fu stan's applications of punch defense. Sorry, but this clip has nothing to do with real fighting and has nothing to do with WCK.
    I hope they have very strong faith at that school, because they will need it if they think what they are doing actually works, because it won't.

    Please don't tell me you also believe this is a real good example of someone busting out 150 pushups in 60 seconds to...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2CxG...eature=related
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    Forgive my confusion but what exactly does this mean?

    I will check the clips out later...
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    I had all ways wonder where the saying " Sh$t rolls down hill" comes about, now I'm SOOOO enlighten. Think I hear Mr. YKS rolling in his grave.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wayfaring View Post
    Looks like someone having an epileptic seizure....
    The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.

    "Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."

    "Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."

    "Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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  7. 03-13-2012, 10:30 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPinAZ View Post
    well, this explains a lot...
    I had all ways wonder where the saying " Sh$t rolls down hill" comes about, now I'm SOOOO enlighten. Think I hear Mr. YKS rolling in his grave.
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  8. 03-13-2012, 04:56 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    My Teacher learn WC from a guy named Robert Lee McField. Now McField Gung Fu is more christian faith based and not so much of emphasis on the fighting as it was when my Sifu first learn. But yet and still many of the techniques and training methods are the same. Just the intensity is not as extreme.
    Forgive my confusion but what exactly does this mean?

    I will check the clips out later...
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