Phil so How do you train your fist to condition to punch the head?
Originally Posted by
Phil Redmond
Sure, you can train you fists to punch to the head. The Japanese use a Makirawa board.
Btw, Tyson broke his hand hitting to the head in a street fight in Harlem.
Joy lol...not the same energy as a upper cut tyson a boxer would through. But an upper cut like punch all the same.
Originally Posted by
Vajramusti
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Once the wing chun punch is properly developed you can punch wherever and whenever there is an open lime IMO.
Also in chum kiu after the last bong wu /kwan sequence there is a short and sweet Tyson like upper cut
joy chaudhuri
So true...Some people just think theirs is be all to end all...
Originally Posted by
Phil Redmond
Ok, your WC doesn't have an uppercut but some Wing Chun lineages do have an uppercut. It's illogical to think that one WC lineage is "the" authority on all WC.
Thats right you use a cutting straight line intercepting the punches. Not every one does just that one application of Bong to raising fist in chum kiu.
In fact in my SLT we have an upper cut in it...lol...There is an upper cut motions in both the innovated one and the one my Sifu taught me. We also have another form called Ma Form that also has an upper cut. This technique we refer to as split the lip.
The problem is see with your rant is your purely a principle based stylist more or less.
Where i rely on both principle and technique..I was never taught one size fits all. I was taught with in the forms there are numerous applications to each technique. Every Block can be a strike and every strike could be a block. I know you guys dont use the word block but i do. Let me also share. With in the SLT there are also techniques know as Tie Sau and Tok Sau. Which are raising and lifting hands. These techinques can intercept attacks, cut off attacks, uproot or distablize your opponents structure, centre and posture. As well as be used as strikes. Just as they are or modified with a fist.
Look at Lop Sau with rolling fist.
Lop sau is not a back fist. it simply means grabbing hand. When you grab the hand downward you roll your fist upward to the opponents face. Thats where you have the back fist. Its two techiques been done at once. You can lop sau with a palm strike, sun fist or even a bil gee. The energy of lop sau is more subtle than that of jut sau. But you can implement a rolling back fist with jut sau too. there are numerous applications you can either drill with a partner or apply while fighting. There is No one size fits all buddy.
which means there is no one application for each technique in the form.
Look at the various versions of Sil Lim Tau. Everyone has something a little different. Either the energy is different or certain techniques are different or the principle behind the form is performed is different. Everyone has their own innovations. Even among brothers let alone different sifus. Different intrepreations to One simply form?
If their are myriad of different ways to do the movements of SLT why cant their be a myriad of ways to apply the techniques found with in the Sil Lim Tau.
In conclusion I see nothing wrong with the way you use the rising fist in Chum Kiu. Kudos for that. But its not merely the only way to do it. If people have ten different ways to perform the same technique i think knowing atleast have of them is worthwhile than only knowing one way!
Originally Posted by
k gledhill
We use cutting straight line intercepting punches and then ...why would there be an uppercut in the last part of a form section just thrown in randomly ?
You know CK is SLT with movement, so where is the uppercut in the SLT ?
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