Sin The' admits in court he made it all up.

[MasterKiller]

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115628

See what happens when I go on vacation?

[Judge Pen]

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115628

See what happens when I go on vacation?

And by all he means 29 forms that comprise SD's lower belt material. Full discussion and legal commentary found in the "Is SD for Real thread."

[MasterKiller]

And by all he means 29 forms that comprise SD's lower belt material. Full discussion and legal commentary found in the "Is SD for Real thread."

Dude, do you know how many times you guys have said that material is the core of the system? Hilarious.

[Judge Pen]

Dude, do you know how many times you guys have said that material is the core of the system? Hilarious.

Yep it is. He created these forms that taught the fundamentals of his system. He then says he also taught the material he was taught by his teacher. If he was up front about this it wouldn't have been a big deal, but as it was passed off has traditional it calls into question everything that was ever taught.

[Scott R. Brown]

The interesting thing is that some people had to hear it in court in order to believe it while many others could spot if a mile away.

I don't have a problem with him making up forms, but be honest about it.

One of the things about people in general is that they think that just because something is old it is better than a similar thing that is new, but just as with everything else in life, buyer beware!

A form should be judged on its own merits not on its age.

[I Hate Ashida Kim]

I'm thinking of someone else who made it all up, too.

[bodhi warrior]

He says he copy writed 29 forms that he created up until around 1990 then he created 40 or 50 more forms after that. I think that might be almost everything up to 5th black, with the exception of the internal material. He says he is teaching traditional shaolin at His seminars but doesn't say he learned these forms from Ie or other sources.

[ginosifu]

Who Gives a Rats Ass?

I do not condone presenting fraudulant / made up material as true and authentic forms from a given system.

However, if you have enough skill and understanding of the theory and principles of your given system, the forms or material you make up your self will in itself be a represenative of the system, will it not?

I made up a small practice drill / form for my childrens curriculum. Am I fruadulently representing my system?

Really... who cares what other people do. Some of you guys argue about the most stupid and irrelavant MA tyopics.

ginosifu

[wenshu]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_dental_fricative

You have to appreciate the irony that after all the effort put forth by The to maintain the romantic wuxia illusion of lineage among his followers as soon as his ability to profit from it is in jeopardy he readily admits to fabricating a majority of the material.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

LOL!! Now THAT is funny!

I wonder if that includes the thousand 9 yellow bee's (or whatever) form?

[Neeros]

Is that a serious picture? He looks like he's losing his balance.

Must be the drunken crane technique.

[Eric Olson]

I think we can now confidently say Shaolin-Do is not "for real".

[David Jamieson]

Nothing is real.

I think we made that clear in the "all is mind" concept.

Everything we do, is a personal pursuit. It doesn't necessarily have overarching meaning to the world or the species, it just is.

10,000 years will pass and all we have done today will be no more and will not even be a memory.

5000 years have passed in written human history, how much did we carry forward with us? Mere fragments of what was.

It's important to understand this I think.

or, in a nutshell...All is impermanent.

[MasterKiller]

Nothing is real.

I think we made that clear in the "all is mind" concept.

Everything we do, is a personal pursuit. It doesn't necessarily have overarching meaning to the world or the species, it just is.

10,000 years will pass and all we have done today will be no more and will not even be a memory.

5000 years have passed in written human history, how much did we carry forward with us? Mere fragments of what was.

It's important to understand this I think.

or, in a nutshell...All is impermanent.

STFU, Hippy. Adults are talking.

[wenshu]

I was just thinking this thread doesn't have enough subjective idealism sophistry.