The foundational principles of WC

[Vajramusti]

He's clearly stating that WC is in possession of an American right.

((I still don't fpllow. But no problem- forget it))

Had he said "you're", it might be a question of WC's nationality. For some reason.

((??? never mind)

In any case, in reference to your #3 above Joy ("the way simplified"), does this have anything to do with "leakage" attacks as articulated in the Kuit? What exactly are leakage attacks?

((WC 1277 posted the fundamental principles- I will let him answer the question))

joy chaudhuri

[WC1277]

this oven is for making food. your not supposed to dry your cats or other live creatures in it as it may bring them harm.
Just reminded me of the stupid disclaimers on household items etc which has been brought about by all the stupid lawsuits

No, just don't want to come across like I represent complete knowledge of WC of my Sifu like the majority of yahoos on this forum. The lineage wars started that way, why would I want to perpetuate it? IMO everyone is their own version of WC. The Sifu just guides you while it's up to you to understand it both objectively and subjectively. Why would I talk for him when I'm not him?

[WC1277]

He's clearly stating that WC is in possession of an American right.

Had he said "you're", it might be a question of WC's nationality. For some reason.

In any case, in reference to your #3 above Joy ("the way simplified"), does this have anything to do with "leakage" attacks as articulated in the Kuit? What exactly are leakage attacks?

I don't follow?

[WingChunABQ]

Stupid joke coming from the Grammar Nazi in me - your vs. you're.

It failed. *sigh!*

But the questions about the "leakage attacks" still stands.

[WC1277]

Stupid joke coming from the Grammar Nazi in me - your vs. you're.

It failed. *sigh!*

But the questions about the "leakage attacks" still stands.

No worries, do you by chance have the kuen kuit saying? My memory fails me.

[Vajramusti]

No worries, do you by chance have the kuen kuit saying? My memory fails me.

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From the old list of kuen kuit collected bt Fong Sifu:

Strike any presented posture if it is there. Otherwise strike where you see motion. Beware of sneak attacks, leakage attacks and invisible centerline attacks.

[WC1277]

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From the old list of kuen kuit collected bt Fong Sifu:

Strike any presented posture if it is there. Otherwise strike where you see motion. Beware of sneak attacks, leakage attacks and invisible centerline attacks.

I have no idea. Maybe Joy could elaborate....

[Vajramusti]

I have no idea. Maybe Joy could elaborate....

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Possibly-FWIW-IMO-a warning regarding holes in ones structure where attacks can get through.

joy chaudhuri

[WingChunABQ]

I have often seen Fong Sifu get very quick shots in during chi sao, where he'll strike very quickly and then go back to the position he was previously holding. (over and over again in the first 20 seconds or so of this video: http://www.fongswingchun.com/FlowingChiSao2.mp4 )

I wonder if that's what it refers to?

And "invisible center line"?

[WC1277]

I have often seen Fong Sifu get very quick shots in during chi sao, where he'll strike very quickly and then go back to the position he was previously holding. (over and over again in the first 20 seconds or so of this video: http://www.fongswingchun.com/FlowingChiSao2.mp4 )

I wonder if that's what it refers to?

And "invisible center line"?

I don't think that would be related. You have to remember that's chi sao. You wouldn't be going back to your "roll" in application. You would just continue to attack....

[Vajramusti]

I have often seen Fong Sifu get very quick shots in during chi sao, where he'll strike very quickly and then go back to the position he was previously holding. (over and over again in the first 20 seconds or so of this video: http://www.fongswingchun.com/FlowingChiSao2.mp4 )

I wonder if that's what it refers to?

((The video is regular chi sao. But leakage can be very specific in tight close quarters)Joy

And "invisible center line"?

((When you know there is line and with a chum kiu motion you use it- but the other guy's vision is blocked and he does not see it))joy (my interpretation anyway- kuen kuit is suggestive-the practitioner finds the applications by usage and experience) joy